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Show HN: Shiori v1.5 – Self hosted bookmarks manager, now with archival support

286 points by acrophobic 7y ago

techntoke 7y ago
Really happy to see an update to this. Shaarli is an alternative, but seems to have issues with the default Docker container. However, I would be much happier with an ncurses-based and file-system database for a bookmark manager that uses Markdown front matter or even just a TOML file: https://gohugo.io/content-management/front-matter/ https://gohugo.io/content-management/front-matter/ Would be much easier to manage bookmarks and sync them in a directory-tree format. Hopefully something like this will get added eventually. I'm envisioning something like, * bookmarks/ * services/ * google.md * favicons/
- WhatIsDukkha 7y ago
  Has anyone spoken to you recently about orgmode :)
  - techntoke 7y ago
    Yes, I'm aware of orgmode and find it helpful, but I don't think I think it only provides partial features in this instance.
    - WhatIsDukkha 7y ago
      Hmm what features would a git synced via - https://github.com/simonthum/git-sync https://github.com/simonthum/git-sync #this gives low friction commits/pull/push Using https://github.com/rexim/org-cliplink https://github.com/rexim/org-cliplink #this gives nice looking links in your orgmode When added to orgmode it far past what a standalone bookmarks managerey thing does. ie - follow up to this github issue in 3 weeks with a bookmark in the TODO Ymmv of course.
- mh- 7y ago
  I've been doing this with directories/text files/a handful of shell functions for the last few years. It's not _great_, so I'd love if there was a better tool that supported a similar "storage backend". Being able to grep everything, sort by modtime, etc. is pretty nice.
JulianWasTaken 7y ago
Other choices for this problem as usual at https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted#bookmarks-and-link-sharing https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted#bookmarks-and....
- charles_f 7y ago
  I did not know that list, it's awesome, contains tons of things I was looking for. Thanks!
- ClashTheBunny 7y ago
  Seems like it's more this category: https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted/blob/master/README.md#read-it-later-lists https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted/blob/master/R...
- hrez 7y ago
  I wish people differentiate various web based bookmark services from actual browser bookmark synchronizers. After xmarks' demise it was really hard to find correct replacement due to the above. I want to use native bookmarks in my browser instantly including locator search etc. I ended up using awesome xBrowserSync which has cross firefox/chrome extensions to sync bookmarks. I self host with excellent and compact https://github.com/ishani/xSyn https://github.com/ishani/xSyn server written in go. Though you could use public servers as it's client side encrypted and anonymous.
eximius 7y ago
Hmm. Now if I could make a FreeNAS plugin out of it...
bravura 7y ago
How about a bookmarks manager that is also a git repo?
- stevekemp 7y ago
  I had this for years, but recent security-changes to browsers make it not work: https://github.com/skx/bookmarks.public https://github.com/skx/bookmarks.public Will work if you move the bookmark data into the main script, but then it is less easy to maintain and less clear.
  - techntoke 7y ago
    It should work with a native messaging extension and app. Browserpass does something similar already. We just need pass-like tool for bookmarks.
- darekkay 7y ago
  I'm maintaining my bookmarks in a git repository with Static Marks[1], which I have written. [1] https://darekkay.com/static-marks/ https://darekkay.com/static-marks/
Tehnix 7y ago
I've used Raindrop for a long time (https://raindrop.io https://raindrop.io) to store a bookmark of all articles I read, categorised in months. It's been interesting to see the variations in "slow" months and busier months. I can see that I'm desparate to read stuff when I'm bored for example. The one thing missing in Shiori for me to replace it would be a share extension for mobile. I use several different browsers and also often read for mobile, where Raindrop can store the bookmark via the share sheet. I was interested if others do similar things?
- sandinmyjoints 7y ago
  Yes, such a feature is a must-have for me as well
kissgyorgy 7y ago
Great! How does it compare to Wallabag (https://wallabag.org/en https://wallabag.org/en)? Does it provide something more? Wallabag changed my life, if there are some better features, I would switch in a bliss!
- ekianjo 7y ago
  Wallabag has a pretty bad user experience if I have to compare it with Shiori. Shiori is easy to install, easy to run, and automatically creates local "reader mode" and archives of the webpages as you add them. On top of that it has a full command line client and an API you can query.
platz 7y ago
Plugging my self hosted web based bookmark manager as well https://github.com/jonschoning/espial https://github.com/jonschoning/espial I like the ingestion via bookmarklet method, as it's low user overhead; just does the job and gets out of your way. I have 73k bookmarks on my instance, which other sass sites sometimes aren't optimized for, and can be sluggish while filtering searching etc.. (users normally have around 5k) I can add detail for a docker build if desired, but the build from source is pretty straightforward.
- platz 7y ago
  also, let's be honest - the kinds of folks running self hosted software are devs and techies, and no one in the open source self hosted space is feeding their family on these tools. In that context open source should be like a bazaar where we share ideas and compete a bit, and see what works, and learn from each other. Let a thousand flowers bloom; we aren't talking about seed rounds here.
- brettinternet 7y ago
  Sir, where have you been? I've been looking for exactly this, a self-hosted pinboard clone. A look and feel like miniflux [1] - there's something timeless about it. I also appreciate the public frontend. This looks like a great project. Have you sensed a need to add postgres/mysql support or perhaps that's overkill? Any plans to implement archiving? I would love details on a docker build for my own homelab. I don't know Haskell, but perhaps it's time to tinker with something new. [1]: https://miniflux.app/ https://miniflux.app/
  - platz 7y ago
    Thanks! I agree minimal is best. SQLite's been excellent. Postgres wouldn't be hard to switch to in the future but I don't think I need it yet. My initial need was met by delegating archiving to http://archive.li http://archive.li . Click the green checkbox next to the bookmark to access the archived page . While not a full mirror, I like having them as the permanent custodian. I'll probably work on getting a release up that doesn't require a build from source such as docker or bits pretty soon.
joker99 7y ago
That looks amazing! Seeing how you singled out Pocket, do you offer a compatible API? That would get me to switch, as I could continue using my tools
lanius 7y ago
Looks great! Is there something similar for Pinboard?
burtonator 7y ago
Polar is another player in this space: https://getpolarized.io/ https://getpolarized.io/ ... as are Wallabag and Raindrop which a few other people mentioned. Seems like there's definitely a longtail here.
bedros 7y ago
can you import google bookmarks?
mitchtbaum 7y ago
next up, sharing sessions / windows, ie lists / trees / graphs of "tabs" and "pages"
mglass3000 7y ago
The archival support looks cool. Right now I'm using Bookmark OS (https://bookmarkos.com https://bookmarkos.com) which may be hard to leave but I will check this out
pacoverdi 7y ago
I've been relying on Hacker News "upvoted submissions" and Twitter's "likes" to avoid losing interesting links forever. And also browser bookmarks, synchronized or not. Kind of low tech. Wondering if I'm missing out by neglecting bookmark managing tools. They sure would have to integrate seamlessly with my browsing habits for them to stick.
ronaldl93 7y ago
Wow, my girlfriend's name is Shiori.
norswap 7y ago
I'm not sure I would call a Pocket clone a "bookmark manager".
fastbmk 7y ago
You will love https://fastbmk.com/ https://fastbmk.com/

286 points by acrophobic 7y ago

Really happy to see an update to this. Shaarli is an alternative, but seems to have issues with the default Docker container. However, I would be much happier with an ncurses-based and file-system database for a bookmark manager that uses Markdown front matter or even just a TOML file: https://gohugo.io/content-management/front-matter/ https://gohugo.io/content-management/front-matter/ Would be much easier to manage bookmarks and sync them in a directory-tree format. Hopefully something like this will get added eventually. I'm envisioning something like, * bookmarks/ * services/ * google.md * favicons/

WhatIsDukkha 7y ago
Has anyone spoken to you recently about orgmode :)
- techntoke 7y ago
  Yes, I'm aware of orgmode and find it helpful, but I don't think I think it only provides partial features in this instance.
  - WhatIsDukkha 7y ago
    Hmm what features would a git synced via - https://github.com/simonthum/git-sync https://github.com/simonthum/git-sync #this gives low friction commits/pull/push Using https://github.com/rexim/org-cliplink https://github.com/rexim/org-cliplink #this gives nice looking links in your orgmode When added to orgmode it far past what a standalone bookmarks managerey thing does. ie - follow up to this github issue in 3 weeks with a bookmark in the TODO Ymmv of course.
mh- 7y ago
I've been doing this with directories/text files/a handful of shell functions for the last few years. It's not _great_, so I'd love if there was a better tool that supported a similar "storage backend". Being able to grep everything, sort by modtime, etc. is pretty nice.

JulianWasTaken 7y ago

Other choices for this problem as usual at https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted#bookmarks-and-link-sharing https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted#bookmarks-and....

charles_f 7y ago
I did not know that list, it's awesome, contains tons of things I was looking for. Thanks!
ClashTheBunny 7y ago
Seems like it's more this category: https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted/blob/master/README.md#read-it-later-lists https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted/blob/master/R...
hrez 7y ago
I wish people differentiate various web based bookmark services from actual browser bookmark synchronizers. After xmarks' demise it was really hard to find correct replacement due to the above. I want to use native bookmarks in my browser instantly including locator search etc. I ended up using awesome xBrowserSync which has cross firefox/chrome extensions to sync bookmarks. I self host with excellent and compact https://github.com/ishani/xSyn https://github.com/ishani/xSyn server written in go. Though you could use public servers as it's client side encrypted and anonymous.

eximius 7y ago

Hmm. Now if I could make a FreeNAS plugin out of it...

bravura 7y ago

How about a bookmarks manager that is also a git repo?

stevekemp 7y ago
I had this for years, but recent security-changes to browsers make it not work: https://github.com/skx/bookmarks.public https://github.com/skx/bookmarks.public Will work if you move the bookmark data into the main script, but then it is less easy to maintain and less clear.
- techntoke 7y ago
  It should work with a native messaging extension and app. Browserpass does something similar already. We just need pass-like tool for bookmarks.
darekkay 7y ago
I'm maintaining my bookmarks in a git repository with Static Marks[1], which I have written. [1] https://darekkay.com/static-marks/ https://darekkay.com/static-marks/

Tehnix 7y ago

I've used Raindrop for a long time (https://raindrop.io https://raindrop.io) to store a bookmark of all articles I read, categorised in months. It's been interesting to see the variations in "slow" months and busier months. I can see that I'm desparate to read stuff when I'm bored for example. The one thing missing in Shiori for me to replace it would be a share extension for mobile. I use several different browsers and also often read for mobile, where Raindrop can store the bookmark via the share sheet. I was interested if others do similar things?

sandinmyjoints 7y ago
Yes, such a feature is a must-have for me as well

kissgyorgy 7y ago

Great! How does it compare to Wallabag (https://wallabag.org/en https://wallabag.org/en)? Does it provide something more? Wallabag changed my life, if there are some better features, I would switch in a bliss!

ekianjo 7y ago
Wallabag has a pretty bad user experience if I have to compare it with Shiori. Shiori is easy to install, easy to run, and automatically creates local "reader mode" and archives of the webpages as you add them. On top of that it has a full command line client and an API you can query.

platz 7y ago

Plugging my self hosted web based bookmark manager as well https://github.com/jonschoning/espial https://github.com/jonschoning/espial I like the ingestion via bookmarklet method, as it's low user overhead; just does the job and gets out of your way. I have 73k bookmarks on my instance, which other sass sites sometimes aren't optimized for, and can be sluggish while filtering searching etc.. (users normally have around 5k) I can add detail for a docker build if desired, but the build from source is pretty straightforward.

platz 7y ago
also, let's be honest - the kinds of folks running self hosted software are devs and techies, and no one in the open source self hosted space is feeding their family on these tools. In that context open source should be like a bazaar where we share ideas and compete a bit, and see what works, and learn from each other. Let a thousand flowers bloom; we aren't talking about seed rounds here.
brettinternet 7y ago
Sir, where have you been? I've been looking for exactly this, a self-hosted pinboard clone. A look and feel like miniflux [1] - there's something timeless about it. I also appreciate the public frontend. This looks like a great project. Have you sensed a need to add postgres/mysql support or perhaps that's overkill? Any plans to implement archiving? I would love details on a docker build for my own homelab. I don't know Haskell, but perhaps it's time to tinker with something new. [1]: https://miniflux.app/ https://miniflux.app/
- platz 7y ago
  Thanks! I agree minimal is best. SQLite's been excellent. Postgres wouldn't be hard to switch to in the future but I don't think I need it yet. My initial need was met by delegating archiving to http://archive.li http://archive.li . Click the green checkbox next to the bookmark to access the archived page . While not a full mirror, I like having them as the permanent custodian. I'll probably work on getting a release up that doesn't require a build from source such as docker or bits pretty soon.

joker99 7y ago

That looks amazing! Seeing how you singled out Pocket, do you offer a compatible API? That would get me to switch, as I could continue using my tools

lanius 7y ago

Looks great! Is there something similar for Pinboard?

burtonator 7y ago

Polar is another player in this space: https://getpolarized.io/ https://getpolarized.io/ ... as are Wallabag and Raindrop which a few other people mentioned. Seems like there's definitely a longtail here.

bedros 7y ago

can you import google bookmarks?

mitchtbaum 7y ago

next up, sharing sessions / windows, ie lists / trees / graphs of "tabs" and "pages"

mglass3000 7y ago

The archival support looks cool. Right now I'm using Bookmark OS (https://bookmarkos.com https://bookmarkos.com) which may be hard to leave but I will check this out

pacoverdi 7y ago

I've been relying on Hacker News "upvoted submissions" and Twitter's "likes" to avoid losing interesting links forever. And also browser bookmarks, synchronized or not. Kind of low tech. Wondering if I'm missing out by neglecting bookmark managing tools. They sure would have to integrate seamlessly with my browsing habits for them to stick.

ronaldl93 7y ago

Wow, my girlfriend's name is Shiori.

norswap 7y ago

I'm not sure I would call a Pocket clone a "bookmark manager".

fastbmk 7y ago

You will love https://fastbmk.com/ https://fastbmk.com/