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That shouldn't even be a question. You shouldn't need to have working conditions be "so bad" before you consider a union.

• kirsebaer 7y ago
  Yeah, it's like a married woman in the 19th century would like to speak with a lawyer about her rights, and her husband forbids it, and people comment "oh, but is he really so bad? Why does she need a lawyer anyway?" Employees are in a vulnerable position. It makes sense for them to join together and jointly hire lawyers and professional negotiators. A company that forbids you from joining a union is abusive. I've been in a union and it was super helpful. Your start-up team wouldn't sign an agreement with a VC without consulting an attorney. Why should your employees sign an employment contract without getting outside advice and help?
  • croh 7y ago
    > Your start-up team wouldn't sign an agreement with a VC without consulting an attorney. Why should your employees sign an employment contract without getting outside advice and help? This is really good point.
    • jeegsy 7y ago
      So from a lawyer then?
  • colejohnson66 7y ago
    > I've been in a union and it was super helpful. Another anecdote: I’ve been in an unions and it did nothing for us. We were still working minimum wage.