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Any plans on making it available on chocolatey? Personally, I avoid Window Store and get as much as possible from choco.

by Yolta 7y ago

lostmsu 7y ago
That would require setting up my own licensing system. You can try Windows 7-targeted free version, which lacks some features, but is distributed via a website: https://rink.hockeyapp.net/apps/6037e69fa4944acc9d83ef7682e60732?utm_source=losttech https://rink.hockeyapp.net/apps/6037e69fa4944acc9d83ef7682e6... I am curious though, why do people dislike Windows Store? It is much like mobile stores, provides automatic updates and sandboxes apps (where possible).
- stinkyball 7y ago
  To answer your curiosity, I use your wm and I love it, but: It means I have to sign in to windows: I have to deal with it nagging me to change my standard logon to a microsoft logon. I then have to worry about all the other apps and their permissions, privacy implications now and in the future. I have to give my credit card details to microsoft. I can't easily take the software with me if I need to use another machine/laptop/tablet etc without having to, again, sign into windows in some way and have all of the above congnitave overhead *n machines. Hell even if I make another local user account for testing or whatever I can't even use your software as I again have to sign into windows even though its working for my main logon. It all adds up to another thing that needs managing/thinking about, which pretty much takes the convienience of (your software, in this case) away. If you wanted to make it restrictive and painful for your users, you have succeeded!
  - lostmsu 7y ago
    Huh, I guess I should try that mode of using Windows. E.g. local login, with Microsoft account only signed in in Store. A bit surprised by the remark about credit card number: of many tech companies, Microsoft is among the last I'd expect to mishandle it.
    - stinkyball 7y ago
      Please don't underestimate the privacy implications as once you have signed into the app store, you're signed into all the other apps too. I would much prefer to have a regular exe with a serial. The credit card being in Microsoft's hands is just another surface that my card is exposed to, perhaps I'm being over zealous worrying on that front.
- dole 7y ago
  I get a "Enterprise evaluation has expired. Please, update the app" message when trying to install.
  - lostmsu 7y ago
    The Windows 7 version is free for non-commercial use only. Are you in academia?
- BlueGh0st 7y ago
  >why do people dislike Windows Store? >It is much like mobile stores I do believe you've answered your own question, haha. The main reason (in my head) is I do not want to contribute to this non-local, always-connected, environment that's constantly etching away at users' privacy. As for the mobile store aspect, I don't think the typical power user really enjoys the mobile store. I'm always having to disable auto-updates because developers will make changes that I do not want, push malicious updates, or an update simply breaks the application for me. Additionally, Microsoft has a habit of building and abandoning these types of programs. Oh, and the last thing-- I'm not even sure if I can use the store anymore after running those telemetry killers for Win10. As I type, I realize I could probably write a paper on why I dislike the app store. In fact, I might. I understand the store probably helps your app get seen, but an app targeting powerusers seems best suited elsewhere. However now that there is a free version, you're in the only market you have left - people who don t know there's a free version or cant figure out how to find/use/install it and are willing to pay.

Any plans on making it available on chocolatey? Personally, I avoid Window Store and get as much as possible from choco.

by Yolta 7y ago

Any plans on making it available on chocolatey? Personally, I avoid Window Store and get as much as possible from choco.

lostmsu 7y ago

That would require setting up my own licensing system. You can try Windows 7-targeted free version, which lacks some features, but is distributed via a website: https://rink.hockeyapp.net/apps/6037e69fa4944acc9d83ef7682e60732?utm_source=losttech https://rink.hockeyapp.net/apps/6037e69fa4944acc9d83ef7682e6... I am curious though, why do people dislike Windows Store? It is much like mobile stores, provides automatic updates and sandboxes apps (where possible).

stinkyball 7y ago
To answer your curiosity, I use your wm and I love it, but: It means I have to sign in to windows: I have to deal with it nagging me to change my standard logon to a microsoft logon. I then have to worry about all the other apps and their permissions, privacy implications now and in the future. I have to give my credit card details to microsoft. I can't easily take the software with me if I need to use another machine/laptop/tablet etc without having to, again, sign into windows in some way and have all of the above congnitave overhead *n machines. Hell even if I make another local user account for testing or whatever I can't even use your software as I again have to sign into windows even though its working for my main logon. It all adds up to another thing that needs managing/thinking about, which pretty much takes the convienience of (your software, in this case) away. If you wanted to make it restrictive and painful for your users, you have succeeded!
- lostmsu 7y ago
  Huh, I guess I should try that mode of using Windows. E.g. local login, with Microsoft account only signed in in Store. A bit surprised by the remark about credit card number: of many tech companies, Microsoft is among the last I'd expect to mishandle it.
  - stinkyball 7y ago
    Please don't underestimate the privacy implications as once you have signed into the app store, you're signed into all the other apps too. I would much prefer to have a regular exe with a serial. The credit card being in Microsoft's hands is just another surface that my card is exposed to, perhaps I'm being over zealous worrying on that front.
dole 7y ago
I get a "Enterprise evaluation has expired. Please, update the app" message when trying to install.
- lostmsu 7y ago
  The Windows 7 version is free for non-commercial use only. Are you in academia?
BlueGh0st 7y ago
>why do people dislike Windows Store? >It is much like mobile stores I do believe you've answered your own question, haha. The main reason (in my head) is I do not want to contribute to this non-local, always-connected, environment that's constantly etching away at users' privacy. As for the mobile store aspect, I don't think the typical power user really enjoys the mobile store. I'm always having to disable auto-updates because developers will make changes that I do not want, push malicious updates, or an update simply breaks the application for me. Additionally, Microsoft has a habit of building and abandoning these types of programs. Oh, and the last thing-- I'm not even sure if I can use the store anymore after running those telemetry killers for Win10. As I type, I realize I could probably write a paper on why I dislike the app store. In fact, I might. I understand the store probably helps your app get seen, but an app targeting powerusers seems best suited elsewhere. However now that there is a free version, you're in the only market you have left - people who don t know there's a free version or cant figure out how to find/use/install it and are willing to pay.