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Am I the only one who can't find the source of this "open source software"? How they can beat Bitbucket while they hide the code under unusable UI?

by tstusr20190823 7y ago

rgoulter 7y ago
> Where is the source? The homepage links to https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/?search=sr.ht https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/?search=sr.ht (EDIT: which is now also the URL in the blogpost with the link text "100% open source software") There are also Hg repos at hg.sr.ht; idk how easy it is to find git.sr.ht from hg.sr.ht. > how can they beat Bitbucket while the code is unusable Well, for Hg users, it's not like there's going to be much of a choice in a year (given BB is sunsetting Hg support), right?
- tstusr20190823 7y ago
  Mercurial users can use their builtin Web UI unlike Git users
  - Sir_Cmpwn 7y ago
    git has gitweb: https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-on-the-Server-GitWeb https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-on-the-Server-GitWeb But in both cases, the user has to have a server to put it on, making services like Sourcehut and Bitbucket (may it rest in peace) useful.
    - tstusr20190823 7y ago
      gitweb requires server setup, while Mercurial web ui can quickly start locally without any configuration and that was the one of mercurial selling point until github and other services arrives.
      - Sir_Cmpwn 7y ago
        `git instaweb` is sufficient to get a working gitweb stood up.
        madmulita 7y ago
        $ git instaweb lighttpd not found. Install lighttpd or use --httpd to specify another httpd daemon. Apparently, not.
        Sir_Cmpwn 7y ago
        You have to install the dependencies of a piece of software to use that piece of software.
        bitmadness 7y ago
        Epic win response lol
      - rgoulter 7y ago
        I think the way you're using hg's web UI is slightly different to the uses I think of for sites like GitHub, BitBucket or SourceHut. A web UI is fine for being able to see the different commits, and files at different points in time. But people also make use of GitHub as a hosted repository for sharing code with others, as an issue tracker, and for doing code review etc. -- for sharing things outside a local network, there's the understanding that either you're paying someone else to host it, or you're making effort to host it yourself, so "requires setup" isn't much of an issue. "sourcehut competes with bitbucket" puts more emphasis on the latter than the former.
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Sir_Cmpwn 7y ago
Clicking the text "100% open source software" brings you to the following list of git repos which collectively contain the source code for sourcehut: https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/?search=sr.ht https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/?search=sr.ht
- tstusr20190823 7y ago
  Can you make "sr.ht git services" the blue title of the repo "card" and "~sircmpwn/git.sr.ht" - the subtitle (with dimmed color)? This simple change will improve UI usability in 10x times.
  - Sir_Cmpwn 7y ago
    Well, the former is the description and the latter is the name.
    - tstusr20190823 7y ago
      The former is a human-readable text which allow eye to easy understand and latter is a technical info which is not required to have space on the screen and makes UI "hard to use".
      - gchq-7703 7y ago
        I wouldn't consider the repository name any more technical in nature than the name of a CD or film. I think it makes sense to have the title be more prominent than the description of what it does.
  - foxhop 7y ago
    I sort of agree about the confusion. I think the proper UI fix would be to split the username (sircmpwn) from the repo name (git.sr.ht) and make them two separate links divided by a non-link " / ". This is what github does and I feel like it's a standard people expect, similar to having the logo of a page on the top left.
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bernardlunn 7y ago
Think Craigslist - totally clunky UI that totally dominates its market
the8472 7y ago
Bitbucket may have better styles, but its load times are atrocious.
- dreamcompiler 7y ago
  Everything from Atlassian is slow. Tried Confluence lately?
  - stjohnswarts 7y ago
    Hmmm our confluence is pretty snappy I never notice any real lag. Especially compared to most web sites off campus. Jira on the other hand...

Am I the only one who can't find the source of this "open source software"? How they can beat Bitbucket while they hide the code under unusable UI?

rgoulter 7y ago

> Where is the source? The homepage links to https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/?search=sr.ht https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/?search=sr.ht (EDIT: which is now also the URL in the blogpost with the link text "100% open source software") There are also Hg repos at hg.sr.ht; idk how easy it is to find git.sr.ht from hg.sr.ht. > how can they beat Bitbucket while the code is unusable Well, for Hg users, it's not like there's going to be much of a choice in a year (given BB is sunsetting Hg support), right?

tstusr20190823 7y ago
Mercurial users can use their builtin Web UI unlike Git users
- Sir_Cmpwn 7y ago
  git has gitweb: https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-on-the-Server-GitWeb https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-on-the-Server-GitWeb But in both cases, the user has to have a server to put it on, making services like Sourcehut and Bitbucket (may it rest in peace) useful.
  - tstusr20190823 7y ago
    gitweb requires server setup, while Mercurial web ui can quickly start locally without any configuration and that was the one of mercurial selling point until github and other services arrives.
    - Sir_Cmpwn 7y ago
      `git instaweb` is sufficient to get a working gitweb stood up.
      - madmulita 7y ago
        $ git instaweb lighttpd not found. Install lighttpd or use --httpd to specify another httpd daemon. Apparently, not.
        Sir_Cmpwn 7y ago
        You have to install the dependencies of a piece of software to use that piece of software.
        bitmadness 7y ago
        Epic win response lol
    - rgoulter 7y ago
      I think the way you're using hg's web UI is slightly different to the uses I think of for sites like GitHub, BitBucket or SourceHut. A web UI is fine for being able to see the different commits, and files at different points in time. But people also make use of GitHub as a hosted repository for sharing code with others, as an issue tracker, and for doing code review etc. -- for sharing things outside a local network, there's the understanding that either you're paying someone else to host it, or you're making effort to host it yourself, so "requires setup" isn't much of an issue. "sourcehut competes with bitbucket" puts more emphasis on the latter than the former.
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Sir_Cmpwn 7y ago

Clicking the text "100% open source software" brings you to the following list of git repos which collectively contain the source code for sourcehut: https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/?search=sr.ht https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/?search=sr.ht

tstusr20190823 7y ago
Can you make "sr.ht git services" the blue title of the repo "card" and "~sircmpwn/git.sr.ht" - the subtitle (with dimmed color)? This simple change will improve UI usability in 10x times.
- Sir_Cmpwn 7y ago
  Well, the former is the description and the latter is the name.
  - tstusr20190823 7y ago
    The former is a human-readable text which allow eye to easy understand and latter is a technical info which is not required to have space on the screen and makes UI "hard to use".
    - gchq-7703 7y ago
      I wouldn't consider the repository name any more technical in nature than the name of a CD or film. I think it makes sense to have the title be more prominent than the description of what it does.
- foxhop 7y ago
  I sort of agree about the confusion. I think the proper UI fix would be to split the username (sircmpwn) from the repo name (git.sr.ht) and make them two separate links divided by a non-link " / ". This is what github does and I feel like it's a standard people expect, similar to having the logo of a page on the top left.

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bernardlunn 7y ago

Think Craigslist - totally clunky UI that totally dominates its market

the8472 7y ago

Bitbucket may have better styles, but its load times are atrocious.

dreamcompiler 7y ago
Everything from Atlassian is slow. Tried Confluence lately?
- stjohnswarts 7y ago
  Hmmm our confluence is pretty snappy I never notice any real lag. Especially compared to most web sites off campus. Jira on the other hand...