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Oh Oracle - first your sales people came every year and jacked up the licenses, and we fled. Then you came up with plans to monetize Java, and we fled. And then

Oh Oracle - first your sales people came every year and jacked up the licenses, and we fled. Then you came up with plans to monetize Java, and we fled. And then this. Just die already, OK - your old business model is dead and your attempts to make a new one would even embarrass Elsevier

dehrmann 7y ago
Don't forget ZFS. I seriously wish Google had bought Sun. Their cultures are so much more compatible, and while the Sun's hardware business didn't really mesh with Google's, it would have saved them some headaches with Oracle, and with the direction custom hardware is headed, might have become a real asset.
tootie 7y ago
Larry Ellison is exactly the kind of guy Trump loves. He'll get one flattering phone call and the contract is theirs. Then $10B will turn into 100 before they hit the first release.
- ethbro 7y ago
  For $10B, Oracle will gladly buy $8B of AWS services for you...
- sam1r 7y ago
  It's a shame that this might actually be how it turns out.
- JudgeWapner 7y ago
  Uranium One is exactly the type of company Hillary Clinton loves. Solyndra is exactly the kind of guy Obama loves. Both parties are the same.
meddlepal 7y ago
> your old business model is dead and your attempts to make a new one would even embarrass Elsevier Sounds like wishcasting. Oracle is still be raking in money. The death of Oracle has long been a fan favorite on HN, but it's nowhere near being dead and their business model while perhaps antiquated by HN SaaS standards is alive and well and still seems to be working though they're diversifying into a number of new areas to deal with possible long term decline of Oracle DB.
- throwaway1492 7y ago
  I don't know how they do it, but I've seen some really diehard anti Oracle companies adopt Oracle. One place had a really large mainframe installation and DB2 licensed all over. They moved to Oracle. I was shocked. They play some kind of massive long game, no one else is at their level when it comes to sales.

dehrmann 7y ago

Don't forget ZFS. I seriously wish Google had bought Sun. Their cultures are so much more compatible, and while the Sun's hardware business didn't really mesh with Google's, it would have saved them some headaches with Oracle, and with the direction custom hardware is headed, might have become a real asset.

tootie 7y ago

Larry Ellison is exactly the kind of guy Trump loves. He'll get one flattering phone call and the contract is theirs. Then $10B will turn into 100 before they hit the first release.

ethbro 7y ago
For $10B, Oracle will gladly buy $8B of AWS services for you...
sam1r 7y ago
It's a shame that this might actually be how it turns out.
JudgeWapner 7y ago
Uranium One is exactly the type of company Hillary Clinton loves. Solyndra is exactly the kind of guy Obama loves. Both parties are the same.

meddlepal 7y ago

> your old business model is dead and your attempts to make a new one would even embarrass Elsevier Sounds like wishcasting. Oracle is still be raking in money. The death of Oracle has long been a fan favorite on HN, but it's nowhere near being dead and their business model while perhaps antiquated by HN SaaS standards is alive and well and still seems to be working though they're diversifying into a number of new areas to deal with possible long term decline of Oracle DB.

throwaway1492 7y ago
I don't know how they do it, but I've seen some really diehard anti Oracle companies adopt Oracle. One place had a really large mainframe installation and DB2 licensed all over. They moved to Oracle. I was shocked. They play some kind of massive long game, no one else is at their level when it comes to sales.