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I’m not usually a “let the market decide” person, but ARIN has only made this problem worse with their idealism over reality policies. Their response has contin
by eeeeeeeeeeeee 7y ago
I’m not usually a “let the market decide” person, but ARIN has only made this problem worse with their idealism over reality policies. Their response has continued to be “time to switch to ipv6” which grossly oversimplifies the reality of the issue.
Oddly enough, the Europeans, through RIPE are doing it right by allowing a market system so that unused but assigned net blocks can be sold to people that actually have a need for them.
I’ve also faced denials from ARIN for tiny allocations, with a clearly justified use case. They are a miserable bureaucracy to deal with. But as others have indicated, there is still a lot of IPv4 that is allocated to organizations but completely unused.
- adestefan 7y agoI believe the op is not talking about a denial by ARIN. The 44 space is administered by a series of volunteers that I believe is distributed worldwide. Some people in the amateur radio community like to create little fiefdoms and the distribution of subnets in 44 is not immune to this type of gate keeping.
- eeeeeeeeeeeee 7y agoAh whoops, sorry about that. Thought they were referencing the larger IP space issue. My point still stands, ARIN is terrible :)
- billh 7y agoCorrect. ARDC (managing entity of AMPRNet) then used the lack of use of the 44 address space as an excuse to sell it off to the highest bidder. Those addresses were indeed unused, but not for lack of want.
- solotronics 7y agoThere are still blocks for sale in the US and probably always will be. Not saying your wrong just that the reality is more of a gray market vs the official ARIN party line. There are blocks that were assigned predating ARIN and if you never agreed then you can still sell these at a market rate.
- throwaway2048 7y agoIts a bit of a compromise from ARIN, because in order to sell it and be recognized by ARIN (able to update whois, get RKPI records, etc) the sellers must give ARIN authority over the sold netblock space.
- icedchai 7y agoI personally own a /24 block predating ARIN, registered back in 1993. I am not planning on selling it, and never signed their RSA agreements and probably never will as long as reverse DNS remains delegated.
- eeeeeeeeeeeee 7y agoYep, I looked into that but you basically cede all control back to ARIN. ARIN does not let you consider them “assets” so they get involved in any company acquisition. IPv4 space from other regions is much more flexible.