All both pylons and tg have thousands of users on their lists, bfg has dozens of commiters of users, and a growing users list. And between our three frameworks

All both pylons and tg have thousands of users on their lists, bfg has dozens of commiters of users, and a growing users list. And between our three frameworks I wouldn't be surprised to see tens of thousands of live sites, and millions of pages served per day. Heck I work on a site with millions of dynamic pages a day served up by turbo gears So, I'd say the facts show a different story than the casual dismissal you want to paint. There is a lot that can be said for consolidation. And a lot to be said for the team working on pyramid now, so I'm excited in spite of your skepticism.