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As a citizen of the United States (a country that cut down nearly all of its old-growth forests) what can I do as an individual to slow down deforestation in th

As a citizen of the United States (a country that cut down nearly all of its old-growth forests) what can I do as an individual to slow down deforestation in the Amazon? What are some real solutions I could enact that would make any difference? The situation feels hopeless until the Brazilian government makes a sweeping effort to preserve the Amazon and that it's laws are fully enforced.

russianbandit 7y ago
Unfortunately, the Brazilian government is corrupt af, and is only interested in preserving their wealth.
- rolltiide 7y ago
  In my experience, the only difference between corruption and other wealth preserving tactics is mere respect for the form of due process If respect isnt there, its corruption If respect is there, its the law
  - r00fus 7y ago
    Corruption isn't a wealth preservation tactic. It's an exploitation tactic. Whether you're strip mining the earth's resources, stripping away the wealth of the nation, subverting the moral/political culture or simply just amassing ill-gotten gains, corruption is the proven method.
    - rolltiide 7y ago
      Many places have deep histories and convoluted legal practices, which from an outside perspective gets dismissed as corruption, but internally it is considered due process Its just that the observation goes both ways
      - r00fus 7y ago
        Corruption as due process? That's an incredible stretch.
        rolltiide 7y ago
        and I'm telling you its not. The idea that rule of law basically doesn't exist and isn't the method of choice in perpetuating a circumstance in "these other corrupt countries" is overly broad and often inaccurate
dvh 7y ago
Buy a lot (in US), plant trees.
londons_explore 7y ago
Buy some plots of land in the Amazon. It's very cheap, although the paperwork is both expensive and time-consuming.
llukas 7y ago
If you're anything close to average then you can actually work on reducing your family carbon footprint US has 16.3 tons per capita and Brazil has 2.6. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EN.ATM.CO2E.PC?locations=BR-US-EU https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EN.ATM.CO2E.PC?location... US also sucks compared to EU so being first world country is not an excuse.
SmellyGeekBoy 7y ago
Seems this deforestation is to support cattle farming - so don't buy Brazilian beef?
- NikkiA 7y ago
  One of the biggest recipients of that cattle farming is still McDonalds, after 40 years of people protesting them being involved, and them repeatedly saying they were fixing it.
Khanhanhan 7y ago
I love how Norway is trying to reduce deforestation around the world by paying countries not to cut down trees. I would be happy to join similar initiatives with my modest funds (or time). [0] https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/02/norway-starts-payments-to-indonesia-for-cutting-forest-emissions/ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/02/norway-starts-payment... [1] https://www.fastcompany.com/1681332/why-norway-is-paying-a-south-american-country-to-not-cut-down-its-trees https://www.fastcompany.com/1681332/why-norway-is-paying-a-s...

russianbandit 7y ago

Unfortunately, the Brazilian government is corrupt af, and is only interested in preserving their wealth.

rolltiide 7y ago
In my experience, the only difference between corruption and other wealth preserving tactics is mere respect for the form of due process If respect isnt there, its corruption If respect is there, its the law
- r00fus 7y ago
  Corruption isn't a wealth preservation tactic. It's an exploitation tactic. Whether you're strip mining the earth's resources, stripping away the wealth of the nation, subverting the moral/political culture or simply just amassing ill-gotten gains, corruption is the proven method.
  - rolltiide 7y ago
    Many places have deep histories and convoluted legal practices, which from an outside perspective gets dismissed as corruption, but internally it is considered due process Its just that the observation goes both ways
    - r00fus 7y ago
      Corruption as due process? That's an incredible stretch.
      - rolltiide 7y ago
        and I'm telling you its not. The idea that rule of law basically doesn't exist and isn't the method of choice in perpetuating a circumstance in "these other corrupt countries" is overly broad and often inaccurate

dvh 7y ago

Buy a lot (in US), plant trees.

londons_explore 7y ago

Buy some plots of land in the Amazon. It's very cheap, although the paperwork is both expensive and time-consuming.

llukas 7y ago

If you're anything close to average then you can actually work on reducing your family carbon footprint US has 16.3 tons per capita and Brazil has 2.6. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EN.ATM.CO2E.PC?locations=BR-US-EU https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EN.ATM.CO2E.PC?location... US also sucks compared to EU so being first world country is not an excuse.

SmellyGeekBoy 7y ago

Seems this deforestation is to support cattle farming - so don't buy Brazilian beef?

NikkiA 7y ago
One of the biggest recipients of that cattle farming is still McDonalds, after 40 years of people protesting them being involved, and them repeatedly saying they were fixing it.

Khanhanhan 7y ago

I love how Norway is trying to reduce deforestation around the world by paying countries not to cut down trees. I would be happy to join similar initiatives with my modest funds (or time). [0] https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/02/norway-starts-payments-to-indonesia-for-cutting-forest-emissions/ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/02/norway-starts-payment... [1] https://www.fastcompany.com/1681332/why-norway-is-paying-a-south-american-country-to-not-cut-down-its-trees https://www.fastcompany.com/1681332/why-norway-is-paying-a-s...