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Amazon directly competes with Netflix and they get along fine. https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/netflix/ https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-stu

Amazon directly competes with Netflix and they get along fine. https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/netflix/ https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/netflix/

tw04 7y ago
I think it's a stretch to say they directly compete. Amazon's Prime service covers a tiny fraction of their catalogue. And everything else is a per-move/show rental or purchase fee. I technically have both because prime video is just included with the membership, but there's no way I would ever pay Amazon more money for Prime Video vs. something like Netflix.
- jjeaff 7y ago
  A stretch? If prime isn't a direct competitor, then no one is. Competitors can have different pricing structures and still be competitors.
  - tw04 7y ago
    So GM and Avis are competitors?
djsumdog 7y ago
I thought Netflix has slowly been moving stuff to their own data centers as they grow and has distanced themselves from AWS on more critical stuff?
- secabeen 7y ago
  Netflix still uses AWS for much of their support systems (billing, discovery, etc. etc.) The core business of delivering video is not on AWS and has never been. That runs on their in-house CDN, OpenConnect.
  - notyourwork 7y ago
    > and has never been I believe this is inaccurate, Netflix was streaming from AWS in their early years IIRC.
    - supermanfan 7y ago
      I have worked at Netflix. The history is that mainly they used well-known CDNs for streaming, followed by their OpenConnect CDN network now. AWS has always been used for metadata. https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/ https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/ I'm not aware of them streaming from AWS, though it's possible a development group there did a test or something temporarily.
- echelon 7y ago
  > distanced themselves from AWS on more critical stuff? Can someone familiar with Netflix speak to this? It makes sense that they'll continue to run stuff in AWS due to their existing footprint, but are they mandated to build new stuff outside the cloud? And if so, why?
- cthalupa 7y ago
  This seems unlikely - Netflix just finished their migration to AWS in 2016 after 7 years and has been quite public about it, and always has a major presence at re:invent, etc. https://media.netflix.com/en/company-blog/completing-the-netflix-cloud-migration https://media.netflix.com/en/company-blog/completing-the-net... They've never used AWS for their CDN.
- numlock86 7y ago
  IIRC it is the other way around. They had much larger data centers but migrate more and more to AWS because of the stereotypical "on-premise vs cloud in large company"-reasons.
mandeepj 7y ago
It’s not the same thing with Netflix. If five movies from Netflix originals did well this year then what Amazon prime can do about it? It’s not a charger cable that they can right away stock and start selling it :-). The catalog of successful movies is available publicly anyway :-)
- lowdose 7y ago
  IMDB is also owned by Amazon.

Amazon directly competes with Netflix and they get along fine. https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/netflix/ https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/netflix/

tw04 7y ago

I think it's a stretch to say they directly compete. Amazon's Prime service covers a tiny fraction of their catalogue. And everything else is a per-move/show rental or purchase fee. I technically have both because prime video is just included with the membership, but there's no way I would ever pay Amazon more money for Prime Video vs. something like Netflix.

jjeaff 7y ago
A stretch? If prime isn't a direct competitor, then no one is. Competitors can have different pricing structures and still be competitors.
- tw04 7y ago
  So GM and Avis are competitors?

djsumdog 7y ago

I thought Netflix has slowly been moving stuff to their own data centers as they grow and has distanced themselves from AWS on more critical stuff?

secabeen 7y ago
Netflix still uses AWS for much of their support systems (billing, discovery, etc. etc.) The core business of delivering video is not on AWS and has never been. That runs on their in-house CDN, OpenConnect.
- notyourwork 7y ago
  > and has never been I believe this is inaccurate, Netflix was streaming from AWS in their early years IIRC.
  - supermanfan 7y ago
    I have worked at Netflix. The history is that mainly they used well-known CDNs for streaming, followed by their OpenConnect CDN network now. AWS has always been used for metadata. https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/ https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/ I'm not aware of them streaming from AWS, though it's possible a development group there did a test or something temporarily.
echelon 7y ago
> distanced themselves from AWS on more critical stuff? Can someone familiar with Netflix speak to this? It makes sense that they'll continue to run stuff in AWS due to their existing footprint, but are they mandated to build new stuff outside the cloud? And if so, why?
cthalupa 7y ago
This seems unlikely - Netflix just finished their migration to AWS in 2016 after 7 years and has been quite public about it, and always has a major presence at re:invent, etc. https://media.netflix.com/en/company-blog/completing-the-netflix-cloud-migration https://media.netflix.com/en/company-blog/completing-the-net... They've never used AWS for their CDN.
numlock86 7y ago
IIRC it is the other way around. They had much larger data centers but migrate more and more to AWS because of the stereotypical "on-premise vs cloud in large company"-reasons.

mandeepj 7y ago

It’s not the same thing with Netflix. If five movies from Netflix originals did well this year then what Amazon prime can do about it? It’s not a charger cable that they can right away stock and start selling it :-). The catalog of successful movies is available publicly anyway :-)

lowdose 7y ago
IMDB is also owned by Amazon.