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As far as i understand the bill doesn't apply to those with political or religious offense. what are these people protest against?

agent00f 7y ago
These types of protests are largely encouraged by the West to deepen division within it's enemies, same as with sunni/shiites in the middle east, or gop/democrats by the Russians. You can tell because the West didn't give a single shit when hk wasn't democratically ruled by the Brits, but now democracy there is headline propaganda.
- magnusjonsson 7y ago
  The PRC didn't exactly cooperate when the UK wanted to introduce democratic measures in HK well before the handover. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_development_in_Hong_Kong#Under_British_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_development_in_Hong...
  - throwaway44327 7y ago
    The UK only tried to introduce it after they knew they couldn’t hold on to Hong Kong anymore. So they did it out of spite. But the UK did try to convince Portugal not to offer the people of Macau citizenship, because they didn’t want to do the same for the people of Hong Kong.
anonymousab 7y ago
Give an inch and they'll take a mile. The slippery slope is a very valid concern with one of the most powerful potential adversaries actively wanting to integrate you and dismantle your system of government. From their perspective it's not hard to imagine China trumping up charges (or getting one of the other listed nations to do it) to get their hands on someone they want. Likewise, having the law on the books at all makes it a (comparatively) very small step to simply add more things to the list of acceptable extradition reasons. China's domestic actions have not given HKers much reason to trust them, and they know that they won't have any chance of clawing back any measure of sovereignty in their system that they give up now.
magnusjonsson 7y ago
China has a lot of vague laws and a history of making up accusations to fit the occasion, with no way for HK judges to examine evidence, and trial with presumption of guilt. This excellent comment on reddit by IosueYu answers the question better than I ever could: https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/bvux0z/hong_kong_extradition_bill_will_not_include/ept56uv?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/bvux0z/hong_kong_...

agent00f 7y ago

These types of protests are largely encouraged by the West to deepen division within it's enemies, same as with sunni/shiites in the middle east, or gop/democrats by the Russians. You can tell because the West didn't give a single shit when hk wasn't democratically ruled by the Brits, but now democracy there is headline propaganda.

magnusjonsson 7y ago
The PRC didn't exactly cooperate when the UK wanted to introduce democratic measures in HK well before the handover. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_development_in_Hong_Kong#Under_British_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_development_in_Hong...
- throwaway44327 7y ago
  The UK only tried to introduce it after they knew they couldn’t hold on to Hong Kong anymore. So they did it out of spite. But the UK did try to convince Portugal not to offer the people of Macau citizenship, because they didn’t want to do the same for the people of Hong Kong.

anonymousab 7y ago

Give an inch and they'll take a mile. The slippery slope is a very valid concern with one of the most powerful potential adversaries actively wanting to integrate you and dismantle your system of government. From their perspective it's not hard to imagine China trumping up charges (or getting one of the other listed nations to do it) to get their hands on someone they want. Likewise, having the law on the books at all makes it a (comparatively) very small step to simply add more things to the list of acceptable extradition reasons. China's domestic actions have not given HKers much reason to trust them, and they know that they won't have any chance of clawing back any measure of sovereignty in their system that they give up now.

magnusjonsson 7y ago

China has a lot of vague laws and a history of making up accusations to fit the occasion, with no way for HK judges to examine evidence, and trial with presumption of guilt. This excellent comment on reddit by IosueYu answers the question better than I ever could: https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/bvux0z/hong_kong_extradition_bill_will_not_include/ept56uv?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/bvux0z/hong_kong_...