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Over 20 years ago, Matthias Ettrich made a Qt GUI for GIMP. GIMP community apparently didn't like him doing that, don't know why. It may have had something to d

Over 20 years ago, Matthias Ettrich made a Qt GUI for GIMP. GIMP community apparently didn't like him doing that, don't know why. It may have had something to do with licensing -- at the time the Qt license meant it wasn't free software and there was some drama about KDE becoming popular when it was using Qt and thus a large component was nonfree. I know these facts separately and do not know if they are related, but it seems like all that stuff was happening in a few-months span in 1998. Someone else would have to elaborate more if they remember anything. https://krita.org/en/about/history/ https://krita.org/en/about/history/

jhasse 7y ago
> It may have had something to do with licensing -- at the time the Qt license meant it wasn't free software [...] So the fork basically violated GIMP's license, right? I think it's very far fetched to conclude "GIMP crew will happily throw a hissy fit at any fork" from that!
- prokoudine 7y ago
  Unsure if inferiorhuman and defective are the same person, but this is so much fun. 1. Pick a story from 20+ years ago. 2. Pretend you are talking about the same people (they aren't). 3. Pretend they never changed their opinion about anything (they did). 4. Post a comment that suggests nothing changed since 1998 (it has). My goodness, some people on the interwebz...
  - defective 7y ago
    I'm not sure I follow your logic, but if it helps clear anything up, I did emphasize that this was an old story, like twice. I am also aware that Qt is GPL now, and that GIMP has hundreds of forks.
    - prokoudine 7y ago
      I don't think you really mean this literally. Hundreds of forks... :)
      - defective 7y ago
        333! None of which really compete, but yeah, literally hundreds. Just one big one though, GIMP Painter.
        prokoudine 7y ago
        You are looking at the wrong number :) That's the total amount of forks on GitHub. Whereas only 15 of them had any commits by people who forked the repository. Among those 15 people: - One is a regular GIMP contributor. - One couldn't wait another day for a macOS build of version 2.10.12. - One patched file association on Windows and submitted his patch to the upstream project. - Some of the others worked on their pet peeves, and some of them discussed it on the upstream bug tracker. You might want revisiting your definition of a fork :)
        defective 7y ago
        Sure. I'll agree with your definition then! *Ah, what the fork! I just realized you're a GIMPer. You think that thing I said about the 1998 drama is what inferiorhuman was referencing?
        prokoudine 7y ago
        Yeah, I thought you did just that. Wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong, of course.
- defective 7y ago
  I don't think they even forked it necessarily, and the Qt hack/patch wasn't even published. It was just presented at some Linux thing. This was the only story I could find that resembled a reason for inferiorhuman's prejudice. There are also hundreds of current existing GIMP forks, and no evidence that the GIMP crew is gearing up for street violence.

jhasse 7y ago

> It may have had something to do with licensing -- at the time the Qt license meant it wasn't free software [...] So the fork basically violated GIMP's license, right? I think it's very far fetched to conclude "GIMP crew will happily throw a hissy fit at any fork" from that!

prokoudine 7y ago
Unsure if inferiorhuman and defective are the same person, but this is so much fun. 1. Pick a story from 20+ years ago. 2. Pretend you are talking about the same people (they aren't). 3. Pretend they never changed their opinion about anything (they did). 4. Post a comment that suggests nothing changed since 1998 (it has). My goodness, some people on the interwebz...
- defective 7y ago
  I'm not sure I follow your logic, but if it helps clear anything up, I did emphasize that this was an old story, like twice. I am also aware that Qt is GPL now, and that GIMP has hundreds of forks.
  - prokoudine 7y ago
    I don't think you really mean this literally. Hundreds of forks... :)
    - defective 7y ago
      333! None of which really compete, but yeah, literally hundreds. Just one big one though, GIMP Painter.
      - prokoudine 7y ago
        You are looking at the wrong number :) That's the total amount of forks on GitHub. Whereas only 15 of them had any commits by people who forked the repository. Among those 15 people: - One is a regular GIMP contributor. - One couldn't wait another day for a macOS build of version 2.10.12. - One patched file association on Windows and submitted his patch to the upstream project. - Some of the others worked on their pet peeves, and some of them discussed it on the upstream bug tracker. You might want revisiting your definition of a fork :)
        defective 7y ago
        Sure. I'll agree with your definition then! *Ah, what the fork! I just realized you're a GIMPer. You think that thing I said about the 1998 drama is what inferiorhuman was referencing?
        prokoudine 7y ago
        Yeah, I thought you did just that. Wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong, of course.
defective 7y ago
I don't think they even forked it necessarily, and the Qt hack/patch wasn't even published. It was just presented at some Linux thing. This was the only story I could find that resembled a reason for inferiorhuman's prejudice. There are also hundreds of current existing GIMP forks, and no evidence that the GIMP crew is gearing up for street violence.