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I'm curious, do you know what scooter model Skip uses in SF? I've also seen Bird use it in San Jose and possibly elsewhere. It has a Segway label. That model i

I'm curious, do you know what scooter model Skip uses in SF? I've also seen Bird use it in San Jose and possibly elsewhere. It has a Segway label. That model is fantastic. Very pleasant brake, and it is much more powerful than the one Scoot uses. The Segway one gets me up some of the hills in SF, whereas the Scoot one is woefully underpowered, a joke for a hilly city like SF.

therein 7y ago
They are decent scooters but I wish they had suspension + pneumatic tires. I still find the retail M365 to be much more pleasant to ride. I actually fell pretty hard from a Skip scooter going slightly downhill in SF because their active breaking gave up on me while going downhill (maybe 20deg angle, not even too steep) I could have dealt with that but even worse it would keep turning itself on and off so the traction would keep changing, because the power connection must have been loose (or battery too low -- this was before they started warning you about a low battery on the app) or something. They did at least add that battery warning, though. That was an important update.
- mertd 7y ago
  Do you mean 2 degrees? 20 is very steep.
  - justinc8687 7y ago
    20 degrees seems about standard for San Francisco. That's only a 5% grade in road parlance.
    - michaelt 7y ago
      20° is a 36.4% grade [1]. New Zealand's Baldwin Street [2] is the world's steepest residential street, according to Guinness World Records, with a slope of 19°. San Francisco's Filbert Street has a gradient of 17.5° [3] and that's that's steep enough that it has steps. Of course, a road can be "very steep" and "normal for SF" at the same time! IMHO even if a road is very steep, if you're hiring scooters in a city the brakes (and geometry) should be good enough that an average rider can safely descend the city's steepest roads. [1] https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/slope-degrees-gradient-grade-d_1562.html https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/slope-degrees-gradient-gr... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_Street https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_Street [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filbert_Street_(San_Francisco) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filbert_Street_(San_Francisco)
      - therein 7y ago
        The way that I was trying to eyeball it was "45° is is kind of like a stairway", this was probably half as intense as that. :)
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mjg59 7y ago
Either a Segway ES2 or ES4
- Jommi 7y ago
  Most companies have moved to Segway Ninebot Max already.
  - yourfate 7y ago
    The ninebot max looks basically exactly like the xiaomi mi scooter pro: https://www.mi.com/global/mi-electric-scooter-pro/ https://www.mi.com/global/mi-electric-scooter-pro/ https://store.segway.com/ninebot-kickscooter-max https://store.segway.com/ninebot-kickscooter-max and I've seen other like those too. Are all those just some rebranded chinese frame?
    - Jommi 7y ago
      Xiaomi owns part of ninebot segway. So for sure.

therein 7y ago

They are decent scooters but I wish they had suspension + pneumatic tires. I still find the retail M365 to be much more pleasant to ride. I actually fell pretty hard from a Skip scooter going slightly downhill in SF because their active breaking gave up on me while going downhill (maybe 20deg angle, not even too steep) I could have dealt with that but even worse it would keep turning itself on and off so the traction would keep changing, because the power connection must have been loose (or battery too low -- this was before they started warning you about a low battery on the app) or something. They did at least add that battery warning, though. That was an important update.

mertd 7y ago
Do you mean 2 degrees? 20 is very steep.
- justinc8687 7y ago
  20 degrees seems about standard for San Francisco. That's only a 5% grade in road parlance.
  - michaelt 7y ago
    20° is a 36.4% grade [1]. New Zealand's Baldwin Street [2] is the world's steepest residential street, according to Guinness World Records, with a slope of 19°. San Francisco's Filbert Street has a gradient of 17.5° [3] and that's that's steep enough that it has steps. Of course, a road can be "very steep" and "normal for SF" at the same time! IMHO even if a road is very steep, if you're hiring scooters in a city the brakes (and geometry) should be good enough that an average rider can safely descend the city's steepest roads. [1] https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/slope-degrees-gradient-grade-d_1562.html https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/slope-degrees-gradient-gr... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_Street https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_Street [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filbert_Street_(San_Francisco) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filbert_Street_(San_Francisco)
    - therein 7y ago
      The way that I was trying to eyeball it was "45° is is kind of like a stairway", this was probably half as intense as that. :)
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mjg59 7y ago

Either a Segway ES2 or ES4

Jommi 7y ago
Most companies have moved to Segway Ninebot Max already.
- yourfate 7y ago
  The ninebot max looks basically exactly like the xiaomi mi scooter pro: https://www.mi.com/global/mi-electric-scooter-pro/ https://www.mi.com/global/mi-electric-scooter-pro/ https://store.segway.com/ninebot-kickscooter-max https://store.segway.com/ninebot-kickscooter-max and I've seen other like those too. Are all those just some rebranded chinese frame?
  - Jommi 7y ago
    Xiaomi owns part of ninebot segway. So for sure.