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Hong Kong protests: Footage shows tear gas being fired into the crowd

49 points by ridicter 7y ago

drenvuk 7y ago
There are live streams on youtube in HK right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGPh1mdDxPc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGPh1mdDxPc is one. If someone can find other reliable ones that would be nice.
hereiskkb 7y ago
It's just speculation from me, but this does oddly seem to reflect China's attitude towards such demonstrations in it's own territory.
- tjpnz 7y ago
  In Uyghur territories yes but you don't tend to "hear" about this happening elsewhere. All that's missing at this point is people being put into black bags never to be seen again. The legislation around extradition to China will address that.
nie100sowny 7y ago
The article looks like some manipulation. These people protest against the extradition act between Honk Kong and China. After this Honk Kong will lose some part of autonomy. It is not pro-democracy manifestation. West journalists are a democracy fanatics :/ Can some Chinese write what is really going on in Hong Kong? Additionally, I have not seen this kind of worried articles about France protest and president Macron :/ Last but not least, I am sad that no one in my country and other European countries pretested when extradictions acts were signed with USA. Looks Hong Kongers are more proud. Good luck.
- simonh 7y ago
  It took 10 minutes after someone predicted incoming "what about this thing in coutry X" comments, but here one is pretty much on cue. There were hundreds of articles all over the world covering the protests in France, much of it sympathetic to the protester's cause. You must know this, how did you find out about them if not from media coverage? >no one in my country and other European countries pretested when extradictions acts were signed with USA That is entirely and very obviously false. There were even public protests, and plenty of articles in the media objecting to the extradition of Julian Assange very recently. In fact in Europe it is not possible to extradite a person to the USA who might face the death penalty, and there are considerable concerns about the treatment of prisoners in the USA, so your specific call out of that issue shows this absolutely is a legitimate point for public concern and protest.
- AllegedAlec 7y ago
  The shill is strong in this one...
- tjpnz 7y ago
  Is "Honk Kong" some kind of method to make oneself come across as less of a shill or is it a legitimate alternative spelling of the city?
frenchman 7y ago
Pro-chinese-governement people commenting with "it is worse in country X" messages in 3,2,1...
chvid 7y ago
I see the scale of the protest; but I don't really understand the end goal here. Eventually Hong Kong will become fully integrated in China, right down to driving on the right-hand side of the street. This is one of many steps in that integration.
- me_me_me 7y ago
  'Integration' that majority of the people do not want and actively resist. Hong Kong is Chinese but is not China. Its classical case of its not illegal but its not right. People of Hong Kong know it's a futile resistance, but they still have unbroken spirit and they show it. And that is commendable.
- ShorsHammer 7y ago
  The end goal is to at least hold out until the clock ticks down, accepting it isn't going to be better. This extradition law has far reaching consequences against freedoms and the rule of law that locals have had until now. That's why there's so many people who normally don't mind Chinese geopolitical moves coming out into the streets compared to other protests like the umbrella movement.
  - NotPaidToPost 7y ago
    > This extradition law has far reaching consequences against freedoms and the rule of law that locals have had until now Could someone explain how?
    - simonh 7y ago
      Judges in Hong Kong are already complaining that they are being exposed to political pressure by Beijing and that the judicial system in China does not comply with even the most basic standards of judicial fairness. The pretext for this is that a Hong Kong resident is recently accused of murdering his girl friend in Taiwan. However this law would expose Taiwan citizens to extradition claims when visiting Hong Kong, so even they are against the law even though it would allow them to extradite the alleged murderer.

49 points by ridicter 7y ago

There are live streams on youtube in HK right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGPh1mdDxPc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGPh1mdDxPc is one. If someone can find other reliable ones that would be nice.

hereiskkb 7y ago

It's just speculation from me, but this does oddly seem to reflect China's attitude towards such demonstrations in it's own territory.

tjpnz 7y ago
In Uyghur territories yes but you don't tend to "hear" about this happening elsewhere. All that's missing at this point is people being put into black bags never to be seen again. The legislation around extradition to China will address that.

nie100sowny 7y ago

The article looks like some manipulation. These people protest against the extradition act between Honk Kong and China. After this Honk Kong will lose some part of autonomy. It is not pro-democracy manifestation. West journalists are a democracy fanatics :/ Can some Chinese write what is really going on in Hong Kong? Additionally, I have not seen this kind of worried articles about France protest and president Macron :/ Last but not least, I am sad that no one in my country and other European countries pretested when extradictions acts were signed with USA. Looks Hong Kongers are more proud. Good luck.

simonh 7y ago
It took 10 minutes after someone predicted incoming "what about this thing in coutry X" comments, but here one is pretty much on cue. There were hundreds of articles all over the world covering the protests in France, much of it sympathetic to the protester's cause. You must know this, how did you find out about them if not from media coverage? >no one in my country and other European countries pretested when extradictions acts were signed with USA That is entirely and very obviously false. There were even public protests, and plenty of articles in the media objecting to the extradition of Julian Assange very recently. In fact in Europe it is not possible to extradite a person to the USA who might face the death penalty, and there are considerable concerns about the treatment of prisoners in the USA, so your specific call out of that issue shows this absolutely is a legitimate point for public concern and protest.
AllegedAlec 7y ago
The shill is strong in this one...
tjpnz 7y ago
Is "Honk Kong" some kind of method to make oneself come across as less of a shill or is it a legitimate alternative spelling of the city?

frenchman 7y ago

Pro-chinese-governement people commenting with "it is worse in country X" messages in 3,2,1...

chvid 7y ago

I see the scale of the protest; but I don't really understand the end goal here. Eventually Hong Kong will become fully integrated in China, right down to driving on the right-hand side of the street. This is one of many steps in that integration.

me_me_me 7y ago
'Integration' that majority of the people do not want and actively resist. Hong Kong is Chinese but is not China. Its classical case of its not illegal but its not right. People of Hong Kong know it's a futile resistance, but they still have unbroken spirit and they show it. And that is commendable.
ShorsHammer 7y ago
The end goal is to at least hold out until the clock ticks down, accepting it isn't going to be better. This extradition law has far reaching consequences against freedoms and the rule of law that locals have had until now. That's why there's so many people who normally don't mind Chinese geopolitical moves coming out into the streets compared to other protests like the umbrella movement.
- NotPaidToPost 7y ago
  > This extradition law has far reaching consequences against freedoms and the rule of law that locals have had until now Could someone explain how?
  - simonh 7y ago
    Judges in Hong Kong are already complaining that they are being exposed to political pressure by Beijing and that the judicial system in China does not comply with even the most basic standards of judicial fairness. The pretext for this is that a Hong Kong resident is recently accused of murdering his girl friend in Taiwan. However this law would expose Taiwan citizens to extradition claims when visiting Hong Kong, so even they are against the law even though it would allow them to extradite the alleged murderer.