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Does it though? Given how much they charge, does it really depend on exploiting those folks? Are they really being exploited given how high their salaries are?

Does it though? Given how much they charge, does it really depend on exploiting those folks? Are they really being exploited given how high their salaries are? Like, just for patient safety, I agree, these folks should not be working the ridiculous hours they work, but would they really agree to that if it meant a salary decrease?

muzani 7y ago
As it is, everyone accepts that if you want lots of money and no quality of life, be a doctor. There should be a middle option like in other careers where they can be moderately well off with only moderate commitment.
- aianus 7y ago
  > hey can be moderately well off with only moderate commitment Primary care physician is like this, no? I guess your quality of life is still awful during training and residency.
- ghufran_syed 7y ago
  There is, if you like emergency medicine: you get paid per hour, so you can work as much or as little as you like.
- RandomInteger4 7y ago
  I completely agree to be honest, but it seems like when you see Doctors and nurses complaining on social media, it's almost like they do it as a badge of honor and not because they actually want fewer hours, given the implications that come with fewer hours (i.e. lower salaries). That's assuming hospitals are actually operating on a tiny profit margin, but if the margin is huge, then there should be more demands. I mean, there's the nurses union at least, but what about the doctors, or the various technicians. Either way though, the system is still broken with respect to how much the patients have to pay.
mpmpmpmp 7y ago
It really does. I have 6 family members in healthcare some on provider side and some on admin side. The provider side always talking about lack of resources and longer hours. Staff leaving and not being replaced. But then talk to the admin side and they talk about reimbursement being so bad taking on some patients are a money pit. Seems like the exploitation is the only way the admin side knows how to keep the wheels from falling off.
- maxxxxx 7y ago
  There is a lot of complaining in health care but there are a lot of people making very good money and the overall system is way too expensive. The whole system is ripe for an overhaul but I bet they will fight any reform tooth and nail because there is much money to be made with the current system.
- RandomInteger4 7y ago
  That's not exploitation. Exploitation is the admin side doing great and still demanding long hours and minimal staff.

muzani 7y ago

As it is, everyone accepts that if you want lots of money and no quality of life, be a doctor. There should be a middle option like in other careers where they can be moderately well off with only moderate commitment.

aianus 7y ago
> hey can be moderately well off with only moderate commitment Primary care physician is like this, no? I guess your quality of life is still awful during training and residency.
ghufran_syed 7y ago
There is, if you like emergency medicine: you get paid per hour, so you can work as much or as little as you like.
RandomInteger4 7y ago
I completely agree to be honest, but it seems like when you see Doctors and nurses complaining on social media, it's almost like they do it as a badge of honor and not because they actually want fewer hours, given the implications that come with fewer hours (i.e. lower salaries). That's assuming hospitals are actually operating on a tiny profit margin, but if the margin is huge, then there should be more demands. I mean, there's the nurses union at least, but what about the doctors, or the various technicians. Either way though, the system is still broken with respect to how much the patients have to pay.

mpmpmpmp 7y ago

It really does. I have 6 family members in healthcare some on provider side and some on admin side. The provider side always talking about lack of resources and longer hours. Staff leaving and not being replaced. But then talk to the admin side and they talk about reimbursement being so bad taking on some patients are a money pit. Seems like the exploitation is the only way the admin side knows how to keep the wheels from falling off.

maxxxxx 7y ago
There is a lot of complaining in health care but there are a lot of people making very good money and the overall system is way too expensive. The whole system is ripe for an overhaul but I bet they will fight any reform tooth and nail because there is much money to be made with the current system.
RandomInteger4 7y ago
That's not exploitation. Exploitation is the admin side doing great and still demanding long hours and minimal staff.