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I think Rust is such a well designed language. But as someone coming from more high-level languages I sometimes feel a bit lost due to not getting as much help

I think Rust is such a well designed language. But as someone coming from more high-level languages I sometimes feel a bit lost due to not getting as much help from the IDE as I'm used to for C# in Visual Studio and Java in IntelliJ. For Rust I've only tried IntelliJ with the Rust plugin, which seems like the best choice for what I'm after.

Leace 7y ago
Rust may hopefully get better autocompletions if they work on their Language Server implementation. C# compiler was explicitly rewritten so that it is IDE friendly and I fully agree with this decision. That said even good, old Java has excellent tooling support that I do miss from all these hip languages (such as Rust).
- steveklabnik 7y ago
  The compiler team is planning on following in C#’s footsteps with the rust-analyzer project.
  - carlmr 7y ago
    I can only recommend trying it out. It works comparatively well. The problem with RLS is that it always needs working code to compile in between and it always loses state. I think it's a design issue at the core of RLS. rust-analyzer does this a lot better and faster, but is still in an early stage.
  - Leace 7y ago
    That would be great! One thing that makes working with a language pleasant is good tooling.
modernerd 7y ago
VS Code support is good too. https://areweideyet.com/ https://areweideyet.com/
- skocznymroczny 7y ago
  Such tables are tricky. What does it mean to have syntax highlighting? For languages like C, it means that keywords, numbers and strings are colored differently. But for languages like Java/C# it's not enough, expectations are different. For such languages you expect class names to be colored differently than variable names, and IDEs for other languages rarely provide that.
tathougies 7y ago
The level of IDE integration has little to do with whether a language is 'high-level'. In fact, the more abstract a language, the more likely it is to be difficult to do complicated analysis.

Leace 7y ago

Rust may hopefully get better autocompletions if they work on their Language Server implementation. C# compiler was explicitly rewritten so that it is IDE friendly and I fully agree with this decision. That said even good, old Java has excellent tooling support that I do miss from all these hip languages (such as Rust).

steveklabnik 7y ago
The compiler team is planning on following in C#’s footsteps with the rust-analyzer project.
- carlmr 7y ago
  I can only recommend trying it out. It works comparatively well. The problem with RLS is that it always needs working code to compile in between and it always loses state. I think it's a design issue at the core of RLS. rust-analyzer does this a lot better and faster, but is still in an early stage.
- Leace 7y ago
  That would be great! One thing that makes working with a language pleasant is good tooling.

modernerd 7y ago

VS Code support is good too. https://areweideyet.com/ https://areweideyet.com/

skocznymroczny 7y ago
Such tables are tricky. What does it mean to have syntax highlighting? For languages like C, it means that keywords, numbers and strings are colored differently. But for languages like Java/C# it's not enough, expectations are different. For such languages you expect class names to be colored differently than variable names, and IDEs for other languages rarely provide that.

tathougies 7y ago

The level of IDE integration has little to do with whether a language is 'high-level'. In fact, the more abstract a language, the more likely it is to be difficult to do complicated analysis.