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Maybe it was a Deep fake video?

gjs278 7y ago
no. we are lied to about north korea every day. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_North_Korea https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_North_Kore... it’s western propaganda and lying defectors that feed us false information. there’s no need for a deep fake. he’s just not dead.
jtr_47 7y ago
It's called Propaganda and it's being perpetuated here in the US of A by our news organizations. It appears that somebody in the US government doesn't want to make peace with North Korea. The fact Trump decided to open a dialog with North Korea and to remove the "bad guy" image of North Korea, is in my opinion the right thing to do. We, the USA and world, doesn't need "enemies" anymore. But I guess somebody or some thing is making a ton of money off of these bad actor/guys scenarios. Too bad we cannot give peace a chance... Peace
- sdinsn 7y ago
  North Korea kills dissidents all the time. We were wrong on this one, but there were plenty others we weren't wrong on. It's hard to be right when NK controls all media; we have to make guesses to get through their bullshit. NK does not want peace FYI, and they are quite clear about it. They returned a US prisoner back to us recently, and he had been tortured to the point of being braindead.
  - burgerzzz 7y ago
    > They returned a US prisoner back to us recently, and he had been tortured to the point of being braindead. There was an assumption he was tortured, but the coroner's report couldn't confirm his cause of death. Why would you state he had been tortured without any proof?
    - darkpuma 7y ago
      When he was released, the North Koreans also sent over MRI scan data they'd taken of his brain. By all accounts he was missing substantial brain tissue, which is consistent with loss of blood to the brain. It's not known what caused that. There wasn't any apparent damage to his neck or skull. The North Koreans claim botulism did it, which certainly isn't impossible but neither is there any evidence for it. He may also have been waterboarded incompetently, causing him to nearly drown for real. That would explain the lack of apparent skull or neck injuries, and also the brain damage. > "Why would you state he had been tortured without any proof?" Proof? Proofs are for mathematics. In the real world we always deal with uncertainties. Is it certain that the North Koreans torture prisoners? No. But is it a likely enough possibility that we shouldn't bite our tongues and not comment on that likelihood? Of course. There is a lot of evidence for North Korea torturing people in the past, and there isn't a lot of reason to give them the benefit of the doubt.
    - sdinsn 7y ago
      It's not an "assumption", it's supported by evidence and SMEs. Like I said, we have to use our brains and actually think about things instead of taking NK's word for everything.
- dang 7y ago
  Could you please stop posting political battle-style comments to HN? This site is for intellectual curiosity, not that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

no. we are lied to about north korea every day. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_North_Korea https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_North_Kore... it’s western propaganda and lying defectors that feed us false information. there’s no need for a deep fake. he’s just not dead.

jtr_47 7y ago

It's called Propaganda and it's being perpetuated here in the US of A by our news organizations. It appears that somebody in the US government doesn't want to make peace with North Korea. The fact Trump decided to open a dialog with North Korea and to remove the "bad guy" image of North Korea, is in my opinion the right thing to do. We, the USA and world, doesn't need "enemies" anymore. But I guess somebody or some thing is making a ton of money off of these bad actor/guys scenarios. Too bad we cannot give peace a chance... Peace

sdinsn 7y ago
North Korea kills dissidents all the time. We were wrong on this one, but there were plenty others we weren't wrong on. It's hard to be right when NK controls all media; we have to make guesses to get through their bullshit. NK does not want peace FYI, and they are quite clear about it. They returned a US prisoner back to us recently, and he had been tortured to the point of being braindead.
- burgerzzz 7y ago
  > They returned a US prisoner back to us recently, and he had been tortured to the point of being braindead. There was an assumption he was tortured, but the coroner's report couldn't confirm his cause of death. Why would you state he had been tortured without any proof?
  - darkpuma 7y ago
    When he was released, the North Koreans also sent over MRI scan data they'd taken of his brain. By all accounts he was missing substantial brain tissue, which is consistent with loss of blood to the brain. It's not known what caused that. There wasn't any apparent damage to his neck or skull. The North Koreans claim botulism did it, which certainly isn't impossible but neither is there any evidence for it. He may also have been waterboarded incompetently, causing him to nearly drown for real. That would explain the lack of apparent skull or neck injuries, and also the brain damage. > "Why would you state he had been tortured without any proof?" Proof? Proofs are for mathematics. In the real world we always deal with uncertainties. Is it certain that the North Koreans torture prisoners? No. But is it a likely enough possibility that we shouldn't bite our tongues and not comment on that likelihood? Of course. There is a lot of evidence for North Korea torturing people in the past, and there isn't a lot of reason to give them the benefit of the doubt.
  - sdinsn 7y ago
    It's not an "assumption", it's supported by evidence and SMEs. Like I said, we have to use our brains and actually think about things instead of taking NK's word for everything.
dang 7y ago
Could you please stop posting political battle-style comments to HN? This site is for intellectual curiosity, not that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html