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You are a heathen, yes? I want you to compare this excuse of a response - devoid of passion, identity or character to show people why being a heathen is wonderf

by lagg 7y ago

You are a heathen, yes? I want you to compare this excuse of a response - devoid of passion, identity or character to show people why being a heathen is wonderful - to my argument above in this thread. An argument made by a simple LOTR fanboy who has to deal with Cirth being inspired by writing systems related to paganism in only an auxilary way. I made the case that it's the height of foolishness to cede an entire spirituality and the foolishness only increases the more severe the generalizations get. You linked a book. Like a christian links a bible study guide when they can't formulate the words required to express their point. Good to know personal responsibility is present in heathens at volume similar to the christians I grew up with. Do better. For the sake of your religion and Tolkien, and for the sake of the ink I got to celebrate him. Random viking-ish armor sellers on imgur do a better job than pagans at large in defending their spirituality if this thread is anything to go by. I am not joking in the slightest either. https://i.imgur.com/AZD4njS.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AZD4njS.jpg Weak. Very weak.

Fjolsvith 7y ago
> Weak. Very weak. I'm not a heathen preacher. I will counter falsehoods I see, but I let people discover the religion themselves. If I were to tell other heathens how to practice their religion, I would be just as guilty as a christian for being judgmental looking down my nose. > Random viking-ish armor sellers on imgur do a better job than pagans at large in defending their spirituality if this thread is anything to go by. I don't use HN as a platform for"defending my spirituality". I engage when the topic comes up, but it is not my life mission to convert unbelievers. > For the sake of your religion and Tolkien Tolkien isn't part of my religion.
- lagg 7y ago
  Such expert casting aside of personal responsibility and character that - I would assume - defines the self-sufficient individual who can dance and play hard that defines a heathen. How does it feel knowing that a conservative catholic (tolkien) and ex-christian atheist southern american latino (me) care about - and wears - your aesthetic better than any nordic native or heathen in this thread so far? My convictions seem to be stronger despite this being the spiritual equivalent of how tourists use egyptian hieroglyphics. Don't worry, I'll have flavor and force of will for your religion's (objectively speaking, very awesome) aesthetic SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO. https://i.imgur.com/EX3fLpS.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EX3fLpS.jpg Is this a thing vikings did by the by? No wonder the confusion between what ritual survived as pagan and what became christian and vice-versa is so muddled. It's like lifting pollen from fields! Just straight up, boot-to-face subservience. Tsk tsk.
  - stronglikedan 7y ago
    > https://i.imgur.com/EX3fLpS.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EX3fLpS.jpg Coincidentally, when I picture the arm of someone who gets weirdly overly aggressive with random strangers online, that is the exact type of arm I see in my mind's eye!
    - lagg 7y ago
      A videogame and book reference with crocs and PJs on? Yeah, seems even more foolish that I feel more identity with that look than real practitioners of its inspiration apparently do. :o
  - Fjolsvith 7y ago
    > How does it feel knowing that a conservative catholic (tolkien) and ex-christian atheist southern american latino (me) care about - and wears - your aesthetic better Meh. Do what you like. However, if you feel there's a point to the topic that's lacking, feel free to look past any perceived personal slights and contribute constructively.
    - lagg 7y ago
      Perceived? You don't see why I would find someone responding to a bad faith link with another link to a $15 pamphlet about their religion offensive? Why should I treat that as anything else like how I'd treat a mormon operating in such a way. Come on man. At least I put my money where my mouth is and showed my real and inoffensive (albeit highly aesthetic and nerdy) attachment to these symbols and why such generalizations are pretty unfair to perpetuate. Of course, someone immediately ignored the point and judged me by the skin. But wouldn't have posted if it were unexpected. The quality of passionate social discourse on HN remains ass, world goes on.

by lagg 7y ago

Fjolsvith 7y ago

> Weak. Very weak. I'm not a heathen preacher. I will counter falsehoods I see, but I let people discover the religion themselves. If I were to tell other heathens how to practice their religion, I would be just as guilty as a christian for being judgmental looking down my nose. > Random viking-ish armor sellers on imgur do a better job than pagans at large in defending their spirituality if this thread is anything to go by. I don't use HN as a platform for"defending my spirituality". I engage when the topic comes up, but it is not my life mission to convert unbelievers. > For the sake of your religion and Tolkien Tolkien isn't part of my religion.

lagg 7y ago
Such expert casting aside of personal responsibility and character that - I would assume - defines the self-sufficient individual who can dance and play hard that defines a heathen. How does it feel knowing that a conservative catholic (tolkien) and ex-christian atheist southern american latino (me) care about - and wears - your aesthetic better than any nordic native or heathen in this thread so far? My convictions seem to be stronger despite this being the spiritual equivalent of how tourists use egyptian hieroglyphics. Don't worry, I'll have flavor and force of will for your religion's (objectively speaking, very awesome) aesthetic SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO. https://i.imgur.com/EX3fLpS.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EX3fLpS.jpg Is this a thing vikings did by the by? No wonder the confusion between what ritual survived as pagan and what became christian and vice-versa is so muddled. It's like lifting pollen from fields! Just straight up, boot-to-face subservience. Tsk tsk.
- stronglikedan 7y ago
  > https://i.imgur.com/EX3fLpS.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EX3fLpS.jpg Coincidentally, when I picture the arm of someone who gets weirdly overly aggressive with random strangers online, that is the exact type of arm I see in my mind's eye!
  - lagg 7y ago
    A videogame and book reference with crocs and PJs on? Yeah, seems even more foolish that I feel more identity with that look than real practitioners of its inspiration apparently do. :o
- Fjolsvith 7y ago
  > How does it feel knowing that a conservative catholic (tolkien) and ex-christian atheist southern american latino (me) care about - and wears - your aesthetic better Meh. Do what you like. However, if you feel there's a point to the topic that's lacking, feel free to look past any perceived personal slights and contribute constructively.
  - lagg 7y ago
    Perceived? You don't see why I would find someone responding to a bad faith link with another link to a $15 pamphlet about their religion offensive? Why should I treat that as anything else like how I'd treat a mormon operating in such a way. Come on man. At least I put my money where my mouth is and showed my real and inoffensive (albeit highly aesthetic and nerdy) attachment to these symbols and why such generalizations are pretty unfair to perpetuate. Of course, someone immediately ignored the point and judged me by the skin. But wouldn't have posted if it were unexpected. The quality of passionate social discourse on HN remains ass, world goes on.