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"Union invaded Poland" in public gets you killed Why? What is taught in schools about this part of Soviet history? Russia isn't even the Soviet Union, and

"Union invaded Poland" in public gets you killed Why? What is taught in schools about this part of Soviet history? Russia isn't even the Soviet Union, and the leader at the time was Georgian.

baybal2 7y ago
> What is taught in schools about this part of Soviet history? Now, nothing, or at least in newer textbooks. USSR just "did nothing for the whole of nineteen thirties"
- raviolo 7y ago
  Not true. One of the commenters on this thread was nice enough to post the modern-day history book for the 9th grade. Unless you believe he went through the effort of redacting it, you will see that it contains details of USSR’s invasion of Poland in 1939, German-Soviet pact and its secret addendum, nature of the agreement to divide Poland and other countries between Germany and USSR, and so on. Factually it seems to agree pretty well with Western sources.
  - baybal2 7y ago
    Orlov's history textbook don't even give it a glancing mention in latest editions. That one is more common in more lower tier educational institutes. A more liberal Brandt's textbook, the one posted above, been heavily edited year after year to its current state where the pact, invasion of Poland, and whole of thirties was reduced to just few pages.
EliRivers 7y ago
As I recall from conversation, it's that the USSR did not jointly invade Poland with Germany; this is evidenced in the fact that they did not invade on the same day. Furthermore, the USSR wasn't even invading Poland; the USSR was striking West through Poland in order to protect Poland from Germany.
- Footpost 7y ago
  Aha, of course, just like the Berlin Wall was an "Anti-Fascist Protection Barrier"! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Wall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Wall
- gus_massa 7y ago
  Just in case your comment is taken out of context, I'd recommend starting it with: In schools it was taught that …
bufferoverflow 7y ago
Instead of WWII they started to teach about The Great Patriotic War, which starts in 1941, when Germany attacks USSR. I heard many Russians deny WWII, since the first two years are full of shameful acts and nazi-friendly stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Patriotic_War_(term) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Patriotic_War_(term)
- konart 7y ago
  Well, that's just bullshit. WWII, its dates and events were all in history textbooks in Russla when I was in school (1995-2005) and they are stil there. We do not teach about The Great Patriotic War instead of the WWII. For TGPW is the greatest part of the WWII, for obvious reasons, that is why it is tought in more deapth and has more hours than other parts combined.
- raviolo 7y ago
  This used to be true 30 years ago but is no longer true.

"Union invaded Poland" in public gets you killed Why? What is taught in schools about this part of Soviet history? Russia isn't even the Soviet Union, and the leader at the time was Georgian.

baybal2 7y ago

> What is taught in schools about this part of Soviet history? Now, nothing, or at least in newer textbooks. USSR just "did nothing for the whole of nineteen thirties"

raviolo 7y ago
Not true. One of the commenters on this thread was nice enough to post the modern-day history book for the 9th grade. Unless you believe he went through the effort of redacting it, you will see that it contains details of USSR’s invasion of Poland in 1939, German-Soviet pact and its secret addendum, nature of the agreement to divide Poland and other countries between Germany and USSR, and so on. Factually it seems to agree pretty well with Western sources.
- baybal2 7y ago
  Orlov's history textbook don't even give it a glancing mention in latest editions. That one is more common in more lower tier educational institutes. A more liberal Brandt's textbook, the one posted above, been heavily edited year after year to its current state where the pact, invasion of Poland, and whole of thirties was reduced to just few pages.

EliRivers 7y ago

As I recall from conversation, it's that the USSR did not jointly invade Poland with Germany; this is evidenced in the fact that they did not invade on the same day. Furthermore, the USSR wasn't even invading Poland; the USSR was striking West through Poland in order to protect Poland from Germany.

Footpost 7y ago
Aha, of course, just like the Berlin Wall was an "Anti-Fascist Protection Barrier"! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Wall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Wall
gus_massa 7y ago
Just in case your comment is taken out of context, I'd recommend starting it with: In schools it was taught that …

bufferoverflow 7y ago

Instead of WWII they started to teach about The Great Patriotic War, which starts in 1941, when Germany attacks USSR. I heard many Russians deny WWII, since the first two years are full of shameful acts and nazi-friendly stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Patriotic_War_(term) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Patriotic_War_(term)

konart 7y ago
Well, that's just bullshit. WWII, its dates and events were all in history textbooks in Russla when I was in school (1995-2005) and they are stil there. We do not teach about The Great Patriotic War instead of the WWII. For TGPW is the greatest part of the WWII, for obvious reasons, that is why it is tought in more deapth and has more hours than other parts combined.
raviolo 7y ago
This used to be true 30 years ago but is no longer true.