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Fair warning to anybody thinking of using Librem Social: it's a Mastodon instance whose management seems willing to tolerate speech that most of the rest of the

Fair warning to anybody thinking of using Librem Social: it's a Mastodon instance whose management seems willing to tolerate speech that most of the rest of the Fediverse finds objectionable. Don't expect that you'll be able to interact with users of other Mastodon instances, as their admins may refuse to federate with Librem Social.

ocdtrekkie 7y ago
The "main" mastodon.social instance isn't choosing to ban them at this time: https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/102180995301556021 https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/102180995301556021 Also, from the article: "If you are being harassed, or witness online harassment, block and flag the offending user and a moderator will take action. We do not tolerate harassment. This is an area of well-established rights, Librem Social is built on and with the expert policies of ACLU, FSF, and EFF, while avoiding the pitfalls of ham-fisted censorship we all dislike from Big Tech." And the link to their Code of Conduct is here: https://librem.one/conduct/ https://librem.one/conduct/ Some elements of the Mastodon community are a bit... extreme in their views on moderation, but it doesn't seem like Purism is going outside the standard faire here.
- knolax 7y ago
  >The "main" mastodon.social instance mastodon.social isn't even the largest mastodon instance[0]. Even aside from that The majority of active accounts are hosted on small or personal instances, especially for English speaking accounts. >extreme in their views on moderation IIRC instance admins had an issue with the purism instance not actively going against hate-speech. I'd hardly call that extremist. [0]From https://instances.social/list https://instances.social/list Instance Users DOWN pawoo.net 549417 DOWN mastodon.social 321500 DOWN mstdn.jp 191718 UP switter.at 118232
  - lone_haxx0r 7y ago
    It isn't extreme, statistically speaking, but at least it isn't what I would want in a social network. If I wanted a heavily censored network I would just use Twitter.
- drngdds 7y ago
  >it doesn't seem like Purism is going outside the standard faire here. This isn't true. Most online communities at least ban outright bigotry and the Librem CoC does not. Banning harassment isn't the same thing.
dna_polymerase 7y ago
I'm glad we left Twitter with all their unknown rules about community behavior and free speech and joined the digital equivalent of Nazi Germany with virtual Gauleiters telling us what to do and what to say.
- drngdds 7y ago
  I agree, there's literally nothing more Nazi-like then not wanting to interact with neo-Nazis
  - dna_polymerase 7y ago
    Right, and Twitter used to force them on everyone. Escaping to another reality doesn't solve problems.
Proven 7y ago
> Warning: it's a Mastodon instance whose management seems willing to tolerate speech that most of the rest of the Fediverse finds objectionable. All right, so there is at least one good reason to use it over other instances. I sounds like Gab and LS could be federated, so these communities could become very large.
panarky 7y ago
> If you see something illegal, please report it to the relevant authorities, as they are best equipped to handle illegal content. Fantastic, more negative externalizes. It's like advertising a free hazmat dump, then disclaiming any responsibility for the inevitable cleanup. Just freeride on taxpayer-funded "authorities". This isn't free speech, it's just disgusting and reprehensible.

ocdtrekkie 7y ago

The "main" mastodon.social instance isn't choosing to ban them at this time: https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/102180995301556021 https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/102180995301556021 Also, from the article: "If you are being harassed, or witness online harassment, block and flag the offending user and a moderator will take action. We do not tolerate harassment. This is an area of well-established rights, Librem Social is built on and with the expert policies of ACLU, FSF, and EFF, while avoiding the pitfalls of ham-fisted censorship we all dislike from Big Tech." And the link to their Code of Conduct is here: https://librem.one/conduct/ https://librem.one/conduct/ Some elements of the Mastodon community are a bit... extreme in their views on moderation, but it doesn't seem like Purism is going outside the standard faire here.

knolax 7y ago
>The "main" mastodon.social instance mastodon.social isn't even the largest mastodon instance[0]. Even aside from that The majority of active accounts are hosted on small or personal instances, especially for English speaking accounts. >extreme in their views on moderation IIRC instance admins had an issue with the purism instance not actively going against hate-speech. I'd hardly call that extremist. [0]From https://instances.social/list https://instances.social/list Instance Users DOWN pawoo.net 549417 DOWN mastodon.social 321500 DOWN mstdn.jp 191718 UP switter.at 118232
- lone_haxx0r 7y ago
  It isn't extreme, statistically speaking, but at least it isn't what I would want in a social network. If I wanted a heavily censored network I would just use Twitter.
drngdds 7y ago
>it doesn't seem like Purism is going outside the standard faire here. This isn't true. Most online communities at least ban outright bigotry and the Librem CoC does not. Banning harassment isn't the same thing.

dna_polymerase 7y ago

I'm glad we left Twitter with all their unknown rules about community behavior and free speech and joined the digital equivalent of Nazi Germany with virtual Gauleiters telling us what to do and what to say.

drngdds 7y ago
I agree, there's literally nothing more Nazi-like then not wanting to interact with neo-Nazis
- dna_polymerase 7y ago
  Right, and Twitter used to force them on everyone. Escaping to another reality doesn't solve problems.

Proven 7y ago

> Warning: it's a Mastodon instance whose management seems willing to tolerate speech that most of the rest of the Fediverse finds objectionable. All right, so there is at least one good reason to use it over other instances. I sounds like Gab and LS could be federated, so these communities could become very large.

panarky 7y ago

> If you see something illegal, please report it to the relevant authorities, as they are best equipped to handle illegal content. Fantastic, more negative externalizes. It's like advertising a free hazmat dump, then disclaiming any responsibility for the inevitable cleanup. Just freeride on taxpayer-funded "authorities". This isn't free speech, it's just disgusting and reprehensible.