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If, tomorrow, NASA, NOAA, and the UN IPCC held a joint press conference to announce surprising new evidence which indicated that anthropogenic effects on the cl

If, tomorrow, NASA, NOAA, and the UN IPCC held a joint press conference to announce surprising new evidence which indicated that anthropogenic effects on the climate were minimal, that we could not noticeably affect the climate, regardless of our emissions, and that the climate was essentially out of our control, what would your reaction be? Would that be good news or bad news? Why?

breakyerself 7y ago
I suppose it would be nice to know we can worry less about how we impact things, but I don't see what the point is in wishful thinking.
- briantakita 7y ago
  Actually, global cooling & a wet spring means decreased crop yields around the world. This is a serious matter that we need to properly prepare for. Not be distracted by pseudoscience of "Anthropogenic Global Warming". We are seeing an increase of Earthquakes & Volcanic Eruptions, driven by space weather. We need to prepare accordingly. The next few winters will continue to get colder.
  - breakyerself 7y ago
    You need to lay off the fake science.
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- instantwhat 7y ago
  Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. What I mean is, if these organizations made such an announcement, and assuming that they were correct, what would you think? Would that be good news or bad news? Why?
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    - instantwhat 7y ago
      > Or are you trying to reveal some sort of hidden value judgment or bias or something related to the politics of global warming? Mainly that, although you aren't the person I posed the question to, and it may not apply to you. Assuming you're being sincere, it doesn't appear to. Since we've come this far, if I may continue asking you: Since you seem to sincerely believe that AGW theory is soundly supported by basic science, what do you make of the many reputable, accomplished scientists, physicists, etc. who do not believe that it is soundly supported by basic science? What do you make of the former IPCC scientists who have whistleblown on the IPCC scientists' political bias and resigned in protest? What do you make of Cook, et al's fraudulent "97% consensus" paper? I appreciate your thoughtful discussion.
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        instantwhat 7y ago
        I asked you three specific questions: 1. What do you make of the many reputable, accomplished scientists, physicists, etc. who do not believe that it is soundly supported by basic science? 2. What do you make of the former IPCC scientists who have whistleblown on the IPCC scientists' political bias and resigned in protest? 3. What do you make of Cook, et al's fraudulent "97% consensus" paper? You then replied with 1,100 words that do not answer any of the three questions I asked. Instead you offered generic, verbose opinion about science and scientists and politics. I don't know who you are trying to convince, but if it's me, you didn't, because you did not answer my serious, specific questions. Science is advanced by specific answers to specific questions. If you are as serious about this issue as you ostensibly are, you ought to have specific answers for these specific questions. If you don't have them, and if you won't get them, then do us both a favor and just admit that you don't know the answers and aren't willing to find them. It is rude to offer verbose bullshit to someone attempting to engage you in serious discussion.

breakyerself 7y ago

I suppose it would be nice to know we can worry less about how we impact things, but I don't see what the point is in wishful thinking.

briantakita 7y ago
Actually, global cooling & a wet spring means decreased crop yields around the world. This is a serious matter that we need to properly prepare for. Not be distracted by pseudoscience of "Anthropogenic Global Warming". We are seeing an increase of Earthquakes & Volcanic Eruptions, driven by space weather. We need to prepare accordingly. The next few winters will continue to get colder.
- breakyerself 7y ago
  You need to lay off the fake science.

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instantwhat 7y ago
Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. What I mean is, if these organizations made such an announcement, and assuming that they were correct, what would you think? Would that be good news or bad news? Why?
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  - instantwhat 7y ago
    > Or are you trying to reveal some sort of hidden value judgment or bias or something related to the politics of global warming? Mainly that, although you aren't the person I posed the question to, and it may not apply to you. Assuming you're being sincere, it doesn't appear to. Since we've come this far, if I may continue asking you: Since you seem to sincerely believe that AGW theory is soundly supported by basic science, what do you make of the many reputable, accomplished scientists, physicists, etc. who do not believe that it is soundly supported by basic science? What do you make of the former IPCC scientists who have whistleblown on the IPCC scientists' political bias and resigned in protest? What do you make of Cook, et al's fraudulent "97% consensus" paper? I appreciate your thoughtful discussion.
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      - instantwhat 7y ago
        I asked you three specific questions: 1. What do you make of the many reputable, accomplished scientists, physicists, etc. who do not believe that it is soundly supported by basic science? 2. What do you make of the former IPCC scientists who have whistleblown on the IPCC scientists' political bias and resigned in protest? 3. What do you make of Cook, et al's fraudulent "97% consensus" paper? You then replied with 1,100 words that do not answer any of the three questions I asked. Instead you offered generic, verbose opinion about science and scientists and politics. I don't know who you are trying to convince, but if it's me, you didn't, because you did not answer my serious, specific questions. Science is advanced by specific answers to specific questions. If you are as serious about this issue as you ostensibly are, you ought to have specific answers for these specific questions. If you don't have them, and if you won't get them, then do us both a favor and just admit that you don't know the answers and aren't willing to find them. It is rude to offer verbose bullshit to someone attempting to engage you in serious discussion.