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There's a pretty simple definition of communism and it's "workers own the means of production". That's the one defining trait of communism according to any co
by lostconfused 7y ago
There's a pretty simple definition of communism and it's "workers own the means of production".
That's the one defining trait of communism according to any communist.
- eropple 7y agoSure, but that also has never been practically the case in any communist nation of which I am aware. Getting into No True Communist discussions isn't meaningfully productive, but there might at least be something to be made from looking at other self-declared communist states and teasing out the differences.
- lostconfused 7y agoAnd I don't want to start that discussion. I just think it's easier to call China a totalitarian capitalist state, without torturing other labels to make them fit. It's not unthinkable for a state to miss represent it self when it comes to names or labels.
- eropple 7y agoI...agree? I mean, I said that. ;) Unless your definition of "communist" is "what China is," it doesn't qualify.
- lostconfused 7y agoThen I didn't fully understand your initial post, I am sorry.
- stcredzero 7y agoI just think it's easier to call China a totalitarian capitalist state, without torturing other labels to make them fit. I think calling them capitalist doesn't involve much less "torturing labels" than calling them communist.
- lostconfused 7y agoOk fair enough. What is it about China that makes it explicitly not capitalist? Since it's absolutely not communism, what makes it absolutely not a capitalist economy?
- eropple 7y agoThere's a ton of state ownership of industry, particularly manufacturing, and land is strictly controlled. That's why I called it "mixed-command".