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GNU Guix 1.0.1 Released

75 points by ymse 7y ago

tomcam 7y ago
Wait, isn’t this a significant milestone? If I understand correctly GNU was formed originally to get an operating system out and this is their 1.0 release, something like 30 years later? I’m a capitalist, man of the right, and not a fan of RMS the public person but he’s been true to his principles and has changed the world. Congratulations, GNU team! Also, it appears to be natively scriptable in Scheme, a Lisp variant. Pretty fun. Hope champagne corks are popping in the GNU world.
- matthewbauer 7y ago
  Guix still uses Linux kernelby default. There is a GNU Hurd option but it is experimental.
  - opan 7y ago
    It uses Linux-libre specifically. Notably it lacks nonfree blobs.
- deleted 7y ago
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- Semiapies 7y ago
  This particular project is only 7 years old. https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/blog/2019/gnu-guix-1.0.0-released/ https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/blog/2019/gnu-guix-1.0.0-r...
- settyness 7y ago
  The milestone that marks GNU Guix 1.0 is their package manager I believe. At its core, this system still uses Linux as its kernel, so it's not the 'pure GNU' system that I believe you're describing. As it stands, GNU Hurd is still another 30 years away from completion (sadly). The GNU project's vision has been effectively realized with the Linux kernel, which itself is protected by the GNU GPL. GNU succeeded long ago, but this is their iteration of a free system with the Linux kernel. I don't think capitalism and RMS' principles are mutually exclusive. RedHat was a big step towards proving this. One of my favorite games is open source (ToME), and I happily bought and paid for it. I'd happily pay for an open source, freedom-respecting operating system if my support was prioritized and didn't consist of canned answers from someone's clipboard. Closed, proprietary software has greatly benefited from many free software principles, albeit by strip mining the ever living crap out of them.
  - User23 7y ago
    ToME is fantastic, GPL licensed, and you can play it on Guix. I can't see how to link directly, but search for "tome" on https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/packages/T/page/3/ https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/packages/T/page/3/
- copperx 7y ago
  > I’m a capitalist, man of the right What does that mean, related to computing?
  - ChristianBundy 7y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics
    - geekone 7y ago
      What does it mean in the context of computing though?
      - nicklaf 7y ago
        It means he's not a fan of the GNU philosophy: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-impor...
  - _jal 7y ago
    Some people's ideologies are so rigid that they must identify wrongthinkers before otherwise commenting on them, lest they be thought to have ideologically-incorrect cooties by other rigid ideologues.
instantwhat 7y ago
Those release notes are some of the best written I've ever seen. Clear, concise, comprehensive. Gives a lot of confidence in the project going forward. Nice work.
daniel_iversen 7y ago
Without a lot of thought or research I have no idea what Guix is! Even the website - https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/ https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/ - offers the reader no real clue about what it is.. Is it a unix distribution, linux distribution, graphics environment, window manager, ux app development framework - who knows! :-) ... please everyone remember to write decent copy for your projects - you have to market open source too.
- cstrahan 7y ago
  At the very top of that page: > Guix is an advanced distribution of the GNU operating system developed by the GNU Project—which respects the freedom of computer users. On the about page: > The GNU Guix package and system manager is a free software project developed by volunteers around the world under the umbrella of the GNU Project. > > Guix System is an advanced distribution of the GNU operating system. It uses the Linux-libre kernel, and support for the Hurd is being worked on. As a GNU distribution, it is committed to respecting and enhancing the freedom of its users. As such, it adheres to the GNU Free System Distribution Guidelines. So "Guix" is short for "Guix System", which is a distribution of linux. There's also the "Guix package manager". Honest question: what part of the above portions of copy fail to convey what Guix is?
  - agumonkey 7y ago
    no mention of nix... surprising
    - kdtsh 7y ago
      While it might not be in the first paragraphs that the user quoted, Guix doesn’t make a secret of where it came from.
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - itsnotlupus 7y ago
    Maybe if you know what the "GNU operating system" is, it's a great description. As for me, I had to keep reading until I saw "Linux" to go "oh ok, it's a Linux distro and they're being a little weird about it because it's GNU/Linux, nevermind it's GNU. It's just GNU."
i_feel_great 7y ago
Can someone please explain what replaces systemd in Guix?
- opan 7y ago
  Shepherd replaces systemd as the init system.
- nextos 7y ago
  Shepherd (not to be confused with Hurd). It's implemented in Guile Scheme too. See here: https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Services.html https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Servic...

75 points by ymse 7y ago

Wait, isn’t this a significant milestone? If I understand correctly GNU was formed originally to get an operating system out and this is their 1.0 release, something like 30 years later? I’m a capitalist, man of the right, and not a fan of RMS the public person but he’s been true to his principles and has changed the world. Congratulations, GNU team! Also, it appears to be natively scriptable in Scheme, a Lisp variant. Pretty fun. Hope champagne corks are popping in the GNU world.

matthewbauer 7y ago
Guix still uses Linux kernelby default. There is a GNU Hurd option but it is experimental.
- opan 7y ago
  It uses Linux-libre specifically. Notably it lacks nonfree blobs.
deleted 7y ago
[deleted]
Semiapies 7y ago
This particular project is only 7 years old. https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/blog/2019/gnu-guix-1.0.0-released/ https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/blog/2019/gnu-guix-1.0.0-r...
settyness 7y ago
The milestone that marks GNU Guix 1.0 is their package manager I believe. At its core, this system still uses Linux as its kernel, so it's not the 'pure GNU' system that I believe you're describing. As it stands, GNU Hurd is still another 30 years away from completion (sadly). The GNU project's vision has been effectively realized with the Linux kernel, which itself is protected by the GNU GPL. GNU succeeded long ago, but this is their iteration of a free system with the Linux kernel. I don't think capitalism and RMS' principles are mutually exclusive. RedHat was a big step towards proving this. One of my favorite games is open source (ToME), and I happily bought and paid for it. I'd happily pay for an open source, freedom-respecting operating system if my support was prioritized and didn't consist of canned answers from someone's clipboard. Closed, proprietary software has greatly benefited from many free software principles, albeit by strip mining the ever living crap out of them.
- User23 7y ago
  ToME is fantastic, GPL licensed, and you can play it on Guix. I can't see how to link directly, but search for "tome" on https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/packages/T/page/3/ https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/packages/T/page/3/
copperx 7y ago
> I’m a capitalist, man of the right What does that mean, related to computing?
- ChristianBundy 7y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics
  - geekone 7y ago
    What does it mean in the context of computing though?
    - nicklaf 7y ago
      It means he's not a fan of the GNU philosophy: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-impor...
- _jal 7y ago
  Some people's ideologies are so rigid that they must identify wrongthinkers before otherwise commenting on them, lest they be thought to have ideologically-incorrect cooties by other rigid ideologues.

instantwhat 7y ago

Those release notes are some of the best written I've ever seen. Clear, concise, comprehensive. Gives a lot of confidence in the project going forward. Nice work.

daniel_iversen 7y ago

Without a lot of thought or research I have no idea what Guix is! Even the website - https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/ https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/ - offers the reader no real clue about what it is.. Is it a unix distribution, linux distribution, graphics environment, window manager, ux app development framework - who knows! :-) ... please everyone remember to write decent copy for your projects - you have to market open source too.

cstrahan 7y ago
At the very top of that page: > Guix is an advanced distribution of the GNU operating system developed by the GNU Project—which respects the freedom of computer users. On the about page: > The GNU Guix package and system manager is a free software project developed by volunteers around the world under the umbrella of the GNU Project. > > Guix System is an advanced distribution of the GNU operating system. It uses the Linux-libre kernel, and support for the Hurd is being worked on. As a GNU distribution, it is committed to respecting and enhancing the freedom of its users. As such, it adheres to the GNU Free System Distribution Guidelines. So "Guix" is short for "Guix System", which is a distribution of linux. There's also the "Guix package manager". Honest question: what part of the above portions of copy fail to convey what Guix is?
- agumonkey 7y ago
  no mention of nix... surprising
  - kdtsh 7y ago
    While it might not be in the first paragraphs that the user quoted, Guix doesn’t make a secret of where it came from.
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- itsnotlupus 7y ago
  Maybe if you know what the "GNU operating system" is, it's a great description. As for me, I had to keep reading until I saw "Linux" to go "oh ok, it's a Linux distro and they're being a little weird about it because it's GNU/Linux, nevermind it's GNU. It's just GNU."

i_feel_great 7y ago

Can someone please explain what replaces systemd in Guix?

opan 7y ago
Shepherd replaces systemd as the init system.
nextos 7y ago
Shepherd (not to be confused with Hurd). It's implemented in Guile Scheme too. See here: https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Services.html https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Servic...