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This just reeks of first world problems. People who "don't drink" (you know the ones), take pride in it, and when it turns out they don't have as much fun as th
by athroway 7y ago
This just reeks of first world problems. People who "don't drink" (you know the ones), take pride in it, and when it turns out they don't have as much fun as their drinking friends, complain that alcohol and partying are "pushed on them" and justify their need for complete teetotaling spaces.
I mean, these spaces already exist. They're called Starbucks, Costa Coffee, and so on. They're fancy tea houses and smoothie stores or whatever. Why not just go there instead?
- schnable 7y agoMost of these places aren't open late so they don't provide any nightlife.
- fsloth 7y agoThe social context of a coffee shop is to get coffee. The social context for a bar is to get laid. The fact that they both serve beverages is just incidental and not indicative of their function.
- qntty 7y agoMaybe the people who you have in mind aren't the target demographic. There are plenty of people who prefer not to drink (or want to drink less) that basically never talk about it. People don't dance at Starbucks.
- athroway 7y agoPeople don't dance when they're sober, period. Even in cultures where alcohol isn't traditonally consumed, either another substance is used or very energic and rhythmic music is performed in order to induce trance-like states. People don't magically start moving when there isn't anything to entice them (drinks, or money for professional dancers).
- qntty 7y agoYou obviously haven't been out with very extroverted people before. People can be very suggestible, I think it's probably possible to create a space where people dance without alcohol or anything else.
- athroway 7y agoYeah, they're called nightclubs with outrageous prices for drinks, or juice bars. Been to a few myself. But somehow I doubt your idea of "a space where people dance without alcohol" involves loud rave-type music. Maybe you could clarify
- qntty 7y agoLoud 'party' music? Yes. Rave music? Not necessarily.
- athroway 7y agoAlright, I'm intrigued. What use case isn't filled by most nightclubs? -Bouncers often compulsively search you in order to make sure you don't bring extra alcohol inside -Prices are at a ridiculous premium, typically to profit from the artificial scarcity but also in order to discourage and punish drunken behavior -Loud party music galore What exactly is missing?
- slenk 7y ago"but also in order to discourage and punish drunken behavior" No club is trying to discourage patrons to have drinks. Also, some people like conversation. You can't have that at a nightclub