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Historically, a combined effort by corporate and government interests to take away your rights was called fascism. But I guess if it is the far left doing it, i

Historically, a combined effort by corporate and government interests to take away your rights was called fascism. But I guess if it is the far left doing it, it's okay.

ploika 7y ago
Not a single one of those signatories is far left. The overwhelming majority are centre right. And historically, efforts to curb uncritical airtime for violent and dangerous people have been fairly common (albeit not entirely uncontroversial). Neither Ireland nor the UK were ever far left or fascist but RTÉ and the BBC both heavily restricted interviews with loyalist and republican paramilitaries during the Troubles in Northern Ireland.
Joakal 7y ago
What's the difference between left and right? The old definition was about republic vs monarchy. Now everyone keeps using those labels. Conservative? Right wing. Socially conservative? Right wing. Economically conservative. Left wing. Weird! Authoritative government that's socially conservative; Venezuela. Wait what? Thought they were labelled far left? Left and right labels are pointless, refer to the parties for what they represent; social conservatives; authoritarian; etc https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left–right_political_spectrum https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left–right_political_spectru...
- dgzl 7y ago
  Today's public uses political terms very incorrectly and I think lots of us are confused because it.
EdwardDiego 7y ago
Who is far left in this? Jacinda Ardern represents a centre-left coalition government.
- p1necone 7y ago
  Some people like to use the term "far-left" to mean "far-left of me", without acknowledging that they're nowhere near the center themselves.
  - Kalium 7y ago
    In fairness, people do the same thing with "far right". I've met some people who would likely characterize President Obama as far right. This particular pathology seems to arise from the idea that "far $TYPE" is inherently de-legitmizing. And once you've de-legitimized someone or some position, you don't actually have to take them seriously, so...

Historically, a combined effort by corporate and government interests to take away your rights was called fascism. But I guess if it is the far left doing it, it's okay.

ploika 7y ago

Not a single one of those signatories is far left. The overwhelming majority are centre right. And historically, efforts to curb uncritical airtime for violent and dangerous people have been fairly common (albeit not entirely uncontroversial). Neither Ireland nor the UK were ever far left or fascist but RTÉ and the BBC both heavily restricted interviews with loyalist and republican paramilitaries during the Troubles in Northern Ireland.

Joakal 7y ago

What's the difference between left and right? The old definition was about republic vs monarchy. Now everyone keeps using those labels. Conservative? Right wing. Socially conservative? Right wing. Economically conservative. Left wing. Weird! Authoritative government that's socially conservative; Venezuela. Wait what? Thought they were labelled far left? Left and right labels are pointless, refer to the parties for what they represent; social conservatives; authoritarian; etc https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left–right_political_spectrum https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left–right_political_spectru...

dgzl 7y ago
Today's public uses political terms very incorrectly and I think lots of us are confused because it.

EdwardDiego 7y ago

Who is far left in this? Jacinda Ardern represents a centre-left coalition government.

p1necone 7y ago
Some people like to use the term "far-left" to mean "far-left of me", without acknowledging that they're nowhere near the center themselves.
- Kalium 7y ago
  In fairness, people do the same thing with "far right". I've met some people who would likely characterize President Obama as far right. This particular pathology seems to arise from the idea that "far $TYPE" is inherently de-legitmizing. And once you've de-legitimized someone or some position, you don't actually have to take them seriously, so...