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You could not be further from the truth. Carbon emissions per capita is way higher in the US and in Europe than in China and India.

by teebot 7y ago

hollerith 7y ago
China, 7.5 metric tons per person in 2014. Switzerland, 4.3. Sweden, 4.5. France, 4.6. Spain, 5.0. Italy, 5.3. UK, 6.5. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_di...
- zamfi 7y ago
  Cherry-picking data much? That same article lists the EU overall at 8.6 and US at 17.
- bogle 7y ago
  Not sure if you were trying to make a point about China having a greater output than European contries but you missed the USA: 16.5 (metric tons per capita).
- natmaka 7y ago
  AFAIK a fair part of China's emissions are due to the production of goods not bought by Chinese but by Swiss, French, Spanish... nationals. China "decides" to produce, so this country is somewhat "guilty", but let's not neglect its "accomplices".
  - hollerith 7y ago
    Good point. Have an upvote.
dagw 7y ago
It's more complicated than that. Emissions in the US, Canada and some European countries are higher (per capita) while some other countries like the UK, Italy, Spain and France are below China. The EU as a whole ranks a bit below China on a per captia basis. However the other important factor here is the trend line. Most western countries above China in this ranking has a trend line pointing downwards, while China still has a trend line pointing upwards. So if both China and the US continue on their current paths then China will indeed soon surpass the US.
- reallydontask 7y ago
  isn't it even more complicated than that? It would seem that manufacturing would have a significant impact on the figures and a lot of manufacturing has been outsourced to China/India. So how much of all the stuff that is bought and consumed in the EU/USA is actually produced in China or India?

You could not be further from the truth. Carbon emissions per capita is way higher in the US and in Europe than in China and India.

by teebot 7y ago

You could not be further from the truth. Carbon emissions per capita is way higher in the US and in Europe than in China and India.

hollerith 7y ago

China, 7.5 metric tons per person in 2014. Switzerland, 4.3. Sweden, 4.5. France, 4.6. Spain, 5.0. Italy, 5.3. UK, 6.5. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_di...

zamfi 7y ago
Cherry-picking data much? That same article lists the EU overall at 8.6 and US at 17.
bogle 7y ago
Not sure if you were trying to make a point about China having a greater output than European contries but you missed the USA: 16.5 (metric tons per capita).
natmaka 7y ago
AFAIK a fair part of China's emissions are due to the production of goods not bought by Chinese but by Swiss, French, Spanish... nationals. China "decides" to produce, so this country is somewhat "guilty", but let's not neglect its "accomplices".
- hollerith 7y ago
  Good point. Have an upvote.

dagw 7y ago

It's more complicated than that. Emissions in the US, Canada and some European countries are higher (per capita) while some other countries like the UK, Italy, Spain and France are below China. The EU as a whole ranks a bit below China on a per captia basis. However the other important factor here is the trend line. Most western countries above China in this ranking has a trend line pointing downwards, while China still has a trend line pointing upwards. So if both China and the US continue on their current paths then China will indeed soon surpass the US.

reallydontask 7y ago
isn't it even more complicated than that? It would seem that manufacturing would have a significant impact on the figures and a lot of manufacturing has been outsourced to China/India. So how much of all the stuff that is bought and consumed in the EU/USA is actually produced in China or India?