You seem to be missing the point of IM GUIs. They are just intended to render the UI in a stateless way. If you try to use them in another way you'll find them

You seem to be missing the point of IM GUIs. They are just intended to render the UI in a stateless way. If you try to use them in another way you'll find them awkward, of course. I may have misunderstood you, tho :)