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You also get EM radiation from the electric wiring in your house, lightbulbs, the sun and so on. It's also about the strength of that EM radiation that determi

You also get EM radiation from the electric wiring in your house, lightbulbs, the sun and so on. It's also about the strength of that EM radiation that determines is if it's harmful. To compare, your wifi router does a max of 4000mW transmission, which is 4W

lighteater 7y ago
The 50/60hz wiring radiation is a mild annoyance compared to 2.4 and 5Ghz wifi (I prefer 5Ghz because it seems to transfer less heat to my tissues); I sporadically use 4G on my phone so I don't need a permanent wifi installation in my room. Contrarily, I've found that staring into the sun, early in the morning for seconds up to a few minutes, is quite pleasant. If 5G is much worse than 4G I'm literally getting lead-lined underwear. It's already a bother to keep my phone sufficiently far from my brain and balls while typing this comment. Then again, my sensitivity is way too high. I can also feel whether my microwave is turned on through the wall!
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- crooked-v 7y ago
  > I prefer 5Ghz because it seems to transfer less heat to my tissues A single 60W incandescent bulb (which has about 10% efficiency for its lighting) transfers more heat to your tissues than a stack of 10 home routers.
  - lighteater 7y ago
    That's a wide-band transmission with a regular 50hz signal, instead of a narrow-band 2.4/5Ghz modulated by chaotic 10/100/1000Mhz (Mb/s) data. Like the difference between a lightbulb and a tissue-penetrating laser strobe.
    - mveety 7y ago
      No it isn’t. The antenna is basically just a flashing light bulb for 5 GHz. 5 GHz transfers way less energy into your body than visible or infrared light because it’s not absorbed as readily and each photon has less energy. It’s like the difference between a blue lightbulb and a red lightbulb.
- sjnair96 7y ago
  >Contrarily, I've found that staring into the sun, early in the morning for seconds up to a few minutes, is quite pleasant. Interesting... What've been your findings?
  - lighteater 7y ago
    It's good for my mood and concentration, and it supports my sleep rhythm. I shouldn't focus on seeing into the sun itself, though I have seen it look 3D now, super cool! That hurt my eyes for a day or so, they felt mildly bruised. It wasn't so bad, as I've hurt my eyes quite a lot before, playing around with a green laser with diffractor. That felt like "100+ small cuts in my retina" that lasted for over a week. It works best to aim for an "HDR" effect (as a baseline, or when it's at all uncomfortable), so look around the sun and only for a small part of the time directly into the sun, aiming to make the sun more defined (vs. "overexposed white area"). For safe fun, use a candle instead. A real burning one, LEDs are Not Nice for staring at.
- jodrellblank 7y ago
  Then again, my sensitivity is way too high. I can also feel whether my microwave is turned on through the wall! Your microwave is a Faraday cage, it's not supposed to let microwaves leak out -> https://www.amazon.com/Microwave-Leak-Detector/s?k=Microwave+Leak+Detector https://www.amazon.com/Microwave-Leak-Detector/s?k=Microwave... something like this might tell you if it's damaged. A double blind test where you are deafened so you can't hear it, and don't know when it's on/off, would be interesting.
jokowueu 7y ago
4watt routers ??? Where The most I found was 1 watt which is allowed by the FCC
glax 7y ago
Where are you getting that information from ? My outdoor Wifi CPE has maximum Tx Power of 23dBm which is about 200mW, which gives me signal strenght of -65dBm and my internet tower is approx 6Km far. I think you have typo on the decimal points on the watts.
- thoughtfunction 7y ago
  I based it on this table: https://w.wol.ph/2015/08/28/maximum-wifi-transmission-power-country/ https://w.wol.ph/2015/08/28/maximum-wifi-transmission-power-... 2.4 ghz tends to be 200mW, and 5ghz max tends to be 4000mW. I wanted to be as pessimistic as possible to still make my point. Although with stuff like 4x4 MU-MIMO routers or dual network routers with one for 2.4ghz and for 5ghz, you could say it's 4 radios at once = 16W max. Radiation per inch of 4x4W power sources is different than one 16W source, so it's not 1:1.

lighteater 7y ago

The 50/60hz wiring radiation is a mild annoyance compared to 2.4 and 5Ghz wifi (I prefer 5Ghz because it seems to transfer less heat to my tissues); I sporadically use 4G on my phone so I don't need a permanent wifi installation in my room. Contrarily, I've found that staring into the sun, early in the morning for seconds up to a few minutes, is quite pleasant. If 5G is much worse than 4G I'm literally getting lead-lined underwear. It's already a bother to keep my phone sufficiently far from my brain and balls while typing this comment. Then again, my sensitivity is way too high. I can also feel whether my microwave is turned on through the wall!

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crooked-v 7y ago
> I prefer 5Ghz because it seems to transfer less heat to my tissues A single 60W incandescent bulb (which has about 10% efficiency for its lighting) transfers more heat to your tissues than a stack of 10 home routers.
- lighteater 7y ago
  That's a wide-band transmission with a regular 50hz signal, instead of a narrow-band 2.4/5Ghz modulated by chaotic 10/100/1000Mhz (Mb/s) data. Like the difference between a lightbulb and a tissue-penetrating laser strobe.
  - mveety 7y ago
    No it isn’t. The antenna is basically just a flashing light bulb for 5 GHz. 5 GHz transfers way less energy into your body than visible or infrared light because it’s not absorbed as readily and each photon has less energy. It’s like the difference between a blue lightbulb and a red lightbulb.
sjnair96 7y ago
>Contrarily, I've found that staring into the sun, early in the morning for seconds up to a few minutes, is quite pleasant. Interesting... What've been your findings?
- lighteater 7y ago
  It's good for my mood and concentration, and it supports my sleep rhythm. I shouldn't focus on seeing into the sun itself, though I have seen it look 3D now, super cool! That hurt my eyes for a day or so, they felt mildly bruised. It wasn't so bad, as I've hurt my eyes quite a lot before, playing around with a green laser with diffractor. That felt like "100+ small cuts in my retina" that lasted for over a week. It works best to aim for an "HDR" effect (as a baseline, or when it's at all uncomfortable), so look around the sun and only for a small part of the time directly into the sun, aiming to make the sun more defined (vs. "overexposed white area"). For safe fun, use a candle instead. A real burning one, LEDs are Not Nice for staring at.
jodrellblank 7y ago
Then again, my sensitivity is way too high. I can also feel whether my microwave is turned on through the wall! Your microwave is a Faraday cage, it's not supposed to let microwaves leak out -> https://www.amazon.com/Microwave-Leak-Detector/s?k=Microwave+Leak+Detector https://www.amazon.com/Microwave-Leak-Detector/s?k=Microwave... something like this might tell you if it's damaged. A double blind test where you are deafened so you can't hear it, and don't know when it's on/off, would be interesting.

jokowueu 7y ago

4watt routers ??? Where The most I found was 1 watt which is allowed by the FCC

glax 7y ago

Where are you getting that information from ? My outdoor Wifi CPE has maximum Tx Power of 23dBm which is about 200mW, which gives me signal strenght of -65dBm and my internet tower is approx 6Km far. I think you have typo on the decimal points on the watts.

thoughtfunction 7y ago
I based it on this table: https://w.wol.ph/2015/08/28/maximum-wifi-transmission-power-country/ https://w.wol.ph/2015/08/28/maximum-wifi-transmission-power-... 2.4 ghz tends to be 200mW, and 5ghz max tends to be 4000mW. I wanted to be as pessimistic as possible to still make my point. Although with stuff like 4x4 MU-MIMO routers or dual network routers with one for 2.4ghz and for 5ghz, you could say it's 4 radios at once = 16W max. Radiation per inch of 4x4W power sources is different than one 16W source, so it's not 1:1.