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Flutter looked great, until I realised that they were re-implementing all the OS controls themselves. For example: https://github.com/flutter/flutter/blob/1db5d

by stu_k 7y ago

Flutter looked great, until I realised that they were re-implementing all the OS controls themselves. For example: https://github.com/flutter/flutter/blob/1db5d66932b873e17c8c675b3782d9c196b28499/packages/flutter/lib/src/cupertino/picker.dart#L15-L16 https://github.com/flutter/flutter/blob/1db5d66932b873e17c8c... This is the kind of thing that leads to an "uncanny valley" app, where things feel slightly off, or they look good until the OS changes something and Flutter doesn't keep up.

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s_y_n_t_a_x 7y ago
That's why ReactNative is my preference. There are forks of it that target Windows and MacOS using their native controls. Microsoft maintains the Windows ReactNative fork (https://github.com/Microsoft/react-native-windows https://github.com/Microsoft/react-native-windows) and they wrap React, ReactNative, and the desktop forks in their ReactXP project. I don't trust Google to emulate a perfect UI among all platforms. I feel like they're generating too big of a workload for no reason, it's a big red flag. I think eventually they'll give up on emulating native controls and choose a unified appearance for all platforms (forcing Material design for everyone) as well as giving the option to customize. I think their endgame is to push Flutter as much as possible so they have Fuchsia developers, then let the other target platforms go unmaintained. Their language, their OS, their devices.
xster 7y ago
I'd definitely a concern and non-ideal for things that are not spec'ed out in https://developer.apple.com/design/resources/ https://developer.apple.com/design/resources/. Hopefully this is all temporary until we can build our own comparison tooling https://github.com/flutter/flutter/projects/9#column-3989168 https://github.com/flutter/flutter/projects/9#column-3989168. Disclaimer: I wrote that line :(
netdur 7y ago
In other hand, when I build something using Flutter I know end use will look at this exact pixel on whatever (android) phone used.
- yellowapple 7y ago
  How much does this actually matter, though?
  - mythz 7y ago
    matters a lot more than getting inconsistent rendering and behavior that you have to continually test cross platform when trying to wrap native controls behind a leaky abstraction.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    Generally, it matters more than you’d think. People can get subconsciously used to things (often in ways they cannot vocalize) and may feel that your software is “off”.

by stu_k 7y ago

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s_y_n_t_a_x 7y ago

That's why ReactNative is my preference. There are forks of it that target Windows and MacOS using their native controls. Microsoft maintains the Windows ReactNative fork (https://github.com/Microsoft/react-native-windows https://github.com/Microsoft/react-native-windows) and they wrap React, ReactNative, and the desktop forks in their ReactXP project. I don't trust Google to emulate a perfect UI among all platforms. I feel like they're generating too big of a workload for no reason, it's a big red flag. I think eventually they'll give up on emulating native controls and choose a unified appearance for all platforms (forcing Material design for everyone) as well as giving the option to customize. I think their endgame is to push Flutter as much as possible so they have Fuchsia developers, then let the other target platforms go unmaintained. Their language, their OS, their devices.

xster 7y ago

I'd definitely a concern and non-ideal for things that are not spec'ed out in https://developer.apple.com/design/resources/ https://developer.apple.com/design/resources/. Hopefully this is all temporary until we can build our own comparison tooling https://github.com/flutter/flutter/projects/9#column-3989168 https://github.com/flutter/flutter/projects/9#column-3989168. Disclaimer: I wrote that line :(

netdur 7y ago

In other hand, when I build something using Flutter I know end use will look at this exact pixel on whatever (android) phone used.

yellowapple 7y ago
How much does this actually matter, though?
- mythz 7y ago
  matters a lot more than getting inconsistent rendering and behavior that you have to continually test cross platform when trying to wrap native controls behind a leaky abstraction.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  Generally, it matters more than you’d think. People can get subconsciously used to things (often in ways they cannot vocalize) and may feel that your software is “off”.