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Your point on be an engineer is what I have been thinking lately. I am 27 as well and not in a position to be an enterpreneur. What I have realized is I need to
by jaspero 16y ago
Your point on be an engineer is what I have been thinking lately. I am 27 as well and not in a position to be an enterpreneur. What I have realized is I need to start developing libraries(javascript/jquery) and not just use it.
- iuguy 16y agoThat's interesting. Why do you feel you're not in a position to be an entrepreneur? I ask because I was 26 when I started Mandalorian, which while not being an amazing world conquering business has paid my mortgage (and that of a fair few others) for the past 5 years.
- jaspero 16y agoNot a US citizen :(. I can't even friggin freelance.
- iuguy 16y agoIf it makes you feel any better I'm not a US citizen either (I'm British, which comes with an automatic apology, for which I apologise). Now that I've removed your geographical excuse, what have you got left? If you're up for it, I'm not quitting this thread till we have an idea worth pursuing between us :)
- jaspero 16y agoI am up for it. Where do we start from?
- iuguy 16y agoOk, any other stumbling blocks to think of? Also, where are your key strengths and weaknesses? Finally do you want to create something to test the water or improve your skills or would you prefer to try and come up with a business model?
- jaspero 16y ago* Nothing that I can think of. Immigration is the biggest hurdle for me to do anything beyond my current job sponsor. * My key strengths are front-end. Javascript, jQuery, CSS * I would like to create something to come up with a business model. * Sorry for late reply.
- iuguy 16y agoHmmm... One pain point for me is developing with Django there's relatively few starting points for django templates. I don't know if you've ever heard about Ruby on Rails' scaffolding, but Django has 80% of the equivalent in it's generic views. However there's no generic view CRUD templates on the net. I'm sure it's the same for other templating languages as well. Likewise a decent set of web app HTML, CSS and Jquery templates for dashboards, user interface paradigms to use as a starting point would be useful. I realise every app is different but when you're starting from scratch it's nice to have something to work with, even if it's just that initial iteration. What do you think?
- jaspero 16y agoI am aware of the Ruby on Rails' scaffolding, CRUD, DRY and MVC stuff. Matter of fact, I am currently self-learning Ruby on Rails. Yes, it would be nice to have some template to start with. I have used YUI CSS framework, Reset, etc. to start off applications. I guess that's relevant to templates you are talking about.
- iuguy 16y agoI'm thinking about something like a wordpress theme site for scaffolds but with a couple of free ones and mostly paid ones but for standard web app functions, maybe mobile scaffolds too for ipad/iphone/android. What do you think?
- jaspero 16y agoSounds great. I would like to hear more. jasper dot internet at gmail, if you would like to email.
- gte910h 16y agoI actually strongly disagree: You need to be a user of libraries not a developer of them when you work in business (that does something other than sell libraries).
- jaspero 16y agoI agree for most part. I think a good web developer is one who can use the existing libraries efficiently to get the job done, not necessarily build one. It's hard to build something when you have to get the job done.
- yummyfajitas 16y agoI think the first poster is spot on. Most businesses you want to work for will also develop libraries/frameworks that are used in house. Or they might develop applications which consist of more than just plugging libraries together.
- gte910h 16y agoYou will develop code you reuse, you may even pack it into libraries, however you shouldn't be thinking this is a fundamental process of the business. It's a side effect that makes some things simpler when you do similar things repeatedly.