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I'm not a troll. I'm writing from an account that is tied to my real name. This was my personal opinion. Also to clarify: I'm not against drugs. I am agains

I'm not a troll. I'm writing from an account that is tied to my real name. This was my personal opinion. Also to clarify: I'm not against drugs. I am against saying that you are actually doing something to fight them. The current war on drugs is not doing anything because THERE IS NO WAR ON DRUGS. You are doing barely anything and claiming that it's not working. Here's my response to the sibling comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19682651 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19682651 It has more examples and may clarify my position a little better.

objectivetruth 7y ago
You're not a troll but you have some major hyperbole and strawmen issues. When you say Americans are 'barely doing anything' about drugs, and we point out that 7 million people were arrested in a 9-year period for cannabis possession, and that to all those people and their families, that IS A LOT. That is A Big Deal, dude. Many of those people spent time in jail, paid thousands of dollars in fines, and are now permanently cut off from the federal student loan/grant program. So you basically shift the goalposts to "Ah, that's not enough. That's not really "doing" anything. They should hunt down and jail cannabis users like Snoop Dogg." Unlike one of my fellow commenters, I don't think doing that would cause a general strike in the population, BUT it would be widely acknowledged as an incredible overreach in policing priorities and cost-effectiveness. A significant fraction of Americans think that our current anti-drug criminal justice system is incredibly authoritarian and anti-democratic and heavily over-funded already, even despite the recent liberalization on cannabis in some areas.... so that's probably why when you say "Oh, America isn't doing anything about drugs," you get so many people saying "WTF?!"

objectivetruth 7y ago

You're not a troll but you have some major hyperbole and strawmen issues. When you say Americans are 'barely doing anything' about drugs, and we point out that 7 million people were arrested in a 9-year period for cannabis possession, and that to all those people and their families, that IS A LOT. That is A Big Deal, dude. Many of those people spent time in jail, paid thousands of dollars in fines, and are now permanently cut off from the federal student loan/grant program. So you basically shift the goalposts to "Ah, that's not enough. That's not really "doing" anything. They should hunt down and jail cannabis users like Snoop Dogg." Unlike one of my fellow commenters, I don't think doing that would cause a general strike in the population, BUT it would be widely acknowledged as an incredible overreach in policing priorities and cost-effectiveness. A significant fraction of Americans think that our current anti-drug criminal justice system is incredibly authoritarian and anti-democratic and heavily over-funded already, even despite the recent liberalization on cannabis in some areas.... so that's probably why when you say "Oh, America isn't doing anything about drugs," you get so many people saying "WTF?!"