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Interested in learning more. Could you provide some sources on why Qualcomm Atheros is "Tier 1"?

WeakLanguage 7y ago
I dont have any, and I'm not going to dig up some to pretend I do. I am speaking off the cuff as someone heavily involved and interested in RF in general and WiFi/LTE in particular. From my anecdota(shame this isnt a word), Atheros chips have better SNR and higher symbol discrimination thanks to cleaner amps, better signal discrimination logic, and tend to be on the forefront of newer RF techniques in the WiFi space. All this culminates in better throughput, latency, and spectrum utilization than anyone else. It also helps that their support under Linux is far superior to most everything else, which helps in Router/AP/Client integration and testing. I don't even like Qualcomm, but from my experience, you will almost always regret choosing someone else for anything but the most basic requirements.
- stagger87 7y ago
  No offense, but if you are going to make claims about SNR and other RF performance related specs/metrics you should be able to provide some data/measurements/datasheets to back up your claims, otherwise it is assumed you are talking out your ass. (Not that I particularly care about this instance, just from one RF guy to another.) Additionally, if you actually have this data, it would be relatively valuable. People pay for this type of information.
- morning_gelato 7y ago
  In my experience Intel wifi, specifically in laptops, has been far and away the best wireless experience I've had on both Windows and Linux. I do not see how Intel's Linux support is second rate, Intel's Linux wifi team is very active and always has solid support for hardware before it is shipped. A big frustration with Qualcomm wifi on Windows has been that they do not provide driver downloads to end users. If you are using a laptop that has been abandoned by the OEM and you have a wifi driver problem you have to hunt for the driver on sketchy 3rd party sites or just live with it. I have personally had to help several people find drivers because ancient Qualcomm drivers were causing bug checks on power state transitions. What real-world experiences have you had with Intel wifi on Linux and Windows that make you believe it is second rate?
  - lawrenceyan 7y ago
    Just curious, why couldn’t you use your real account to ask this question?
    - morning_gelato 7y ago
      This is my only account on this site.

I dont have any, and I'm not going to dig up some to pretend I do. I am speaking off the cuff as someone heavily involved and interested in RF in general and WiFi/LTE in particular. From my anecdota(shame this isnt a word), Atheros chips have better SNR and higher symbol discrimination thanks to cleaner amps, better signal discrimination logic, and tend to be on the forefront of newer RF techniques in the WiFi space. All this culminates in better throughput, latency, and spectrum utilization than anyone else. It also helps that their support under Linux is far superior to most everything else, which helps in Router/AP/Client integration and testing. I don't even like Qualcomm, but from my experience, you will almost always regret choosing someone else for anything but the most basic requirements.

stagger87 7y ago
No offense, but if you are going to make claims about SNR and other RF performance related specs/metrics you should be able to provide some data/measurements/datasheets to back up your claims, otherwise it is assumed you are talking out your ass. (Not that I particularly care about this instance, just from one RF guy to another.) Additionally, if you actually have this data, it would be relatively valuable. People pay for this type of information.
morning_gelato 7y ago
In my experience Intel wifi, specifically in laptops, has been far and away the best wireless experience I've had on both Windows and Linux. I do not see how Intel's Linux support is second rate, Intel's Linux wifi team is very active and always has solid support for hardware before it is shipped. A big frustration with Qualcomm wifi on Windows has been that they do not provide driver downloads to end users. If you are using a laptop that has been abandoned by the OEM and you have a wifi driver problem you have to hunt for the driver on sketchy 3rd party sites or just live with it. I have personally had to help several people find drivers because ancient Qualcomm drivers were causing bug checks on power state transitions. What real-world experiences have you had with Intel wifi on Linux and Windows that make you believe it is second rate?
- lawrenceyan 7y ago
  Just curious, why couldn’t you use your real account to ask this question?
  - morning_gelato 7y ago
    This is my only account on this site.