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Incels? How is that relevant?

reversecs 7y ago
Incels had basically become an alias for scum. It's simply an insult. Now it reveals more about the person using it than the person being accused of it.
- laHiesh1 7y ago
  I've never understood the term incel (involuntarily celibate) as an insult, incels are just people who cannot get female/male attention for various reasons and some make up crazy conspiracy theories to explain it. Many of the people who do fit into this category are sad cases and deserve our sympathy rather than to be insulted and made fun of. The way I see it, it's no different than making fun of a person for having autism. Rather than making fun of these people, how about we help them overcome their issues?
  - throw_away 7y ago
    Is it making fun, or is it fear? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_van_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_van_attack
    - RandomInteger4 7y ago
      Yes, because it makes so much sense to generalize the actions of individuals to a wider group. Totally not a logical fallacy at all.
    - laHiesh1 7y ago
      You could say the same thing about Muslims and terror attacks. Using your logic, I could point to them and terrorist actions committed by those who identify as Islamist and use it to justify acts against innocent Muslims pushing those innocents to extremist factions within Islam. You don't help the issue by justifying ostracisation and bullying of those who are unable to seek female/male attention, it only pushes them to the extremes and extreme acts are what they commit in response.
      - throw_away 7y ago
        I'm not justifying it in the slightest. Continuing your analogy, it would be like saying "I don't know why all these people have a problem with Islam, a religion of peace." without recognizing that some people did some things and here we are. I'm not saying that these peoples' reactions are the correct ones, but it's not like they all just spontaneously decided to hate on Muslims one day, randomly. It was almost certainly the wrong reaction, but there was a trigger. Your statement: > I've never understood the term incel (involuntarily celibate) as an insult, incels are just people who cannot get female/male attention for various reasons and some make up crazy conspiracy theories to explain it. makes it seem that you are unaware of this and think that the public's view of incels is just because it thinks they are losers or something. Incels were not even in the public's general awareness until these incidents.

Incels had basically become an alias for scum. It's simply an insult. Now it reveals more about the person using it than the person being accused of it.

laHiesh1 7y ago
I've never understood the term incel (involuntarily celibate) as an insult, incels are just people who cannot get female/male attention for various reasons and some make up crazy conspiracy theories to explain it. Many of the people who do fit into this category are sad cases and deserve our sympathy rather than to be insulted and made fun of. The way I see it, it's no different than making fun of a person for having autism. Rather than making fun of these people, how about we help them overcome their issues?
- throw_away 7y ago
  Is it making fun, or is it fear? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_van_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_van_attack
  - RandomInteger4 7y ago
    Yes, because it makes so much sense to generalize the actions of individuals to a wider group. Totally not a logical fallacy at all.
  - laHiesh1 7y ago
    You could say the same thing about Muslims and terror attacks. Using your logic, I could point to them and terrorist actions committed by those who identify as Islamist and use it to justify acts against innocent Muslims pushing those innocents to extremist factions within Islam. You don't help the issue by justifying ostracisation and bullying of those who are unable to seek female/male attention, it only pushes them to the extremes and extreme acts are what they commit in response.
    - throw_away 7y ago
      I'm not justifying it in the slightest. Continuing your analogy, it would be like saying "I don't know why all these people have a problem with Islam, a religion of peace." without recognizing that some people did some things and here we are. I'm not saying that these peoples' reactions are the correct ones, but it's not like they all just spontaneously decided to hate on Muslims one day, randomly. It was almost certainly the wrong reaction, but there was a trigger. Your statement: > I've never understood the term incel (involuntarily celibate) as an insult, incels are just people who cannot get female/male attention for various reasons and some make up crazy conspiracy theories to explain it. makes it seem that you are unaware of this and think that the public's view of incels is just because it thinks they are losers or something. Incels were not even in the public's general awareness until these incidents.