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Yup! Somehow everyone is content to have 1 in 68 Americans on the Autism spectrum, without any genuine, serious discussion of what causes it. Amazing how many

Yup! Somehow everyone is content to have 1 in 68 Americans on the Autism spectrum, without any genuine, serious discussion of what causes it. Amazing how many people delude themselves that they’re “thinking different” while actually engaging in mass groupthink. Plenty of other topics are similarly taboo, but I won’t list them here — I’ll probably get plenty of downvotes just for this post!!

monocasa 7y ago
It's more that there's been study after study after study showing no link, and the guy saying there is a link was trying to find a market for his vaccine instead of the standard MMR vaccine and has instead shifted his focus to making money off of his books and movies. The guy is literally profiting over increasing the death rate of children.
- RobertRoberts 7y ago
  There was proof of a link between autism and vaccines. It just came out this past January in 2019. But the news didn't report on it.
  - monocasa 7y ago
    Hold up do you go by Bobby?
  - anoncake 7y ago
    Surely you can provide a citation? Though if anyone claims they have proven such a link, then either they are lying, incompetent or mathematicians. Because nothing gets proven in other fields.
    - RobertRoberts 7y ago
      The reason I won't post a link about this topic is because I get rabbid responses, threats and accusations, and lots of down votes. I have posted links to real data, doctors, scientists and papers before and all of it is rejected because of some reason. It's not a fight I am up for right now. I recommend doing a search for CDC vaccine doctor witness 2019. I am sure you (or someone else) will come back here to accuse me of something anyways. Yes, I am jaded, it's disgusting how unscientific people get when you question vaccine safety. (even though billions have been paid out in damages caused by vaccines... sigh, yes billions) Edit: If you want to hear from a very respected doctor who has studied the science behind vaccines and won't take another vaccine ever again, look up Dr. Suzanne Humphries. Most people won't actually listen to the data she presents, but just attack her out of spite and fear.
      - dboat 7y ago
        Scientists and researchers are constantly saying wrong, untrue things when they are not restrained by the rigor of the peer review process. It is not a scientist's informed opinion that matters, what matters is what they can show. If you do not understand this, I can see how you might receive criticisms and feel they are unfair. But deploy an actual credible source of information, and not someone's opinion, and see the difference it makes.
        RobertRoberts 7y ago
        Just this past week Monsanto was found to have bullied scientists into falsifying results about their weed killer. Just because the ideal is that scientists are about the truth, doesn't mean that is what happens. Edit: There's not been one single peer reviewed double blind test done on the efficacy of vaccines or parachutes.
        monocasa 7y ago
        Why do y'all keep saying there aren't studies being done? Hell, this one was peer reveiwed, double blind _and_ and done with twins. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2871241/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2871241/ And that's just one of thousands of examples.
        RobertRoberts 7y ago
        No, there has not been any studies done on the "efficacy" of vaccines. You misread something. Your link is about "adverse reactions", my statement was about "efficacy". >There's not been one single peer reviewed double blind test done on the _efficacy_ of vaccines
        anoncake 7y ago
        https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/a/1279 https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/a/1279 1 minute of googling.

monocasa 7y ago

It's more that there's been study after study after study showing no link, and the guy saying there is a link was trying to find a market for his vaccine instead of the standard MMR vaccine and has instead shifted his focus to making money off of his books and movies. The guy is literally profiting over increasing the death rate of children.

RobertRoberts 7y ago
There was proof of a link between autism and vaccines. It just came out this past January in 2019. But the news didn't report on it.
- monocasa 7y ago
  Hold up do you go by Bobby?
- anoncake 7y ago
  Surely you can provide a citation? Though if anyone claims they have proven such a link, then either they are lying, incompetent or mathematicians. Because nothing gets proven in other fields.
  - RobertRoberts 7y ago
    The reason I won't post a link about this topic is because I get rabbid responses, threats and accusations, and lots of down votes. I have posted links to real data, doctors, scientists and papers before and all of it is rejected because of some reason. It's not a fight I am up for right now. I recommend doing a search for CDC vaccine doctor witness 2019. I am sure you (or someone else) will come back here to accuse me of something anyways. Yes, I am jaded, it's disgusting how unscientific people get when you question vaccine safety. (even though billions have been paid out in damages caused by vaccines... sigh, yes billions) Edit: If you want to hear from a very respected doctor who has studied the science behind vaccines and won't take another vaccine ever again, look up Dr. Suzanne Humphries. Most people won't actually listen to the data she presents, but just attack her out of spite and fear.
    - dboat 7y ago
      Scientists and researchers are constantly saying wrong, untrue things when they are not restrained by the rigor of the peer review process. It is not a scientist's informed opinion that matters, what matters is what they can show. If you do not understand this, I can see how you might receive criticisms and feel they are unfair. But deploy an actual credible source of information, and not someone's opinion, and see the difference it makes.
      - RobertRoberts 7y ago
        Just this past week Monsanto was found to have bullied scientists into falsifying results about their weed killer. Just because the ideal is that scientists are about the truth, doesn't mean that is what happens. Edit: There's not been one single peer reviewed double blind test done on the efficacy of vaccines or parachutes.
        monocasa 7y ago
        Why do y'all keep saying there aren't studies being done? Hell, this one was peer reveiwed, double blind _and_ and done with twins. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2871241/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2871241/ And that's just one of thousands of examples.
        RobertRoberts 7y ago
        No, there has not been any studies done on the "efficacy" of vaccines. You misread something. Your link is about "adverse reactions", my statement was about "efficacy". >There's not been one single peer reviewed double blind test done on the _efficacy_ of vaccines
        anoncake 7y ago
        https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/a/1279 https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/a/1279 1 minute of googling.