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RIM's claim against kik

18 points by fertel 16y ago

fertel 16y ago
Looks like these are the 3 patents in question: http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/2353161/summary.html?type=number_search http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/235... http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/2485791/summary.html?type=number_search http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/248... http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/2472474/summary.html?type=number_search http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/247...
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pvilchez 16y ago
53. As a result of the wrongful acts of the Defendant, as described herein, RIM has suffered and will continue to suffer serious and irreparable harm, as well as serious and substantial damages. While I think it's fair that RIM protect its BBM patents, I think that Kik has brought more interest to BlackBerry than anything else in recent memory. Most people I know are behind Kik, some going as far as to say that they won't ever purchase a RIM product (again). So in that sense, RIM's actions against Kik may bring themselves more harm in the end.
spaetzel 16y ago
Think the most interesting part is that the Founder of Kik worked at RIM for 3 Co-Op terms. And two of them were on the Blackbery Messenger Team.
- mikepurvis 16y ago
  Yeah, this reads to me more like an NDA-violation lawsuit than a patent lawsuit, despite the title.
PatrickTulskie 16y ago
Should be an interesting battle if Kik survives the financial burden. Basically, they allege that - Kik's CEO used inside knowledge of RIM's BBM platform to develop Kik - Kik infringes on a bunch of their patents - Kik has said bad things on their promotional material about RIM - Kik was illegally slurping and storing user address book data (even though the claim they were not) I think the most interesting thing here is how they were accepted into App World without issue as were other similar applications with even more similar behavior to BBM than Kik has had to date. Also interesting is that RIM alleges that Kik will continue all of this infringing activity unless it is stopped by the courts even though there was no mention of a prior cease and desist. Should be a good fight.
- blutonium 16y ago
  Engadget says they were accepted on the premise of developing a music sharing app.[1] Canada has different rules about C&D for this kind of thing, so that bit isn't surprising. [1] http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/01/rim-sues-kik-in-canada-for-patent-infringement/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/01/rim-sues-kik-in-canada-fo...
muffinman2010 16y ago
hmm didn't know the founder worked for RIM, this got a little interesting

18 points by fertel 16y ago

Looks like these are the 3 patents in question: http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/2353161/summary.html?type=number_search http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/235... http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/2485791/summary.html?type=number_search http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/248... http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/2472474/summary.html?type=number_search http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/247...

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pvilchez 16y ago

53. As a result of the wrongful acts of the Defendant, as described herein, RIM has suffered and will continue to suffer serious and irreparable harm, as well as serious and substantial damages. While I think it's fair that RIM protect its BBM patents, I think that Kik has brought more interest to BlackBerry than anything else in recent memory. Most people I know are behind Kik, some going as far as to say that they won't ever purchase a RIM product (again). So in that sense, RIM's actions against Kik may bring themselves more harm in the end.

spaetzel 16y ago

Think the most interesting part is that the Founder of Kik worked at RIM for 3 Co-Op terms. And two of them were on the Blackbery Messenger Team.

mikepurvis 16y ago
Yeah, this reads to me more like an NDA-violation lawsuit than a patent lawsuit, despite the title.

PatrickTulskie 16y ago

Should be an interesting battle if Kik survives the financial burden. Basically, they allege that - Kik's CEO used inside knowledge of RIM's BBM platform to develop Kik - Kik infringes on a bunch of their patents - Kik has said bad things on their promotional material about RIM - Kik was illegally slurping and storing user address book data (even though the claim they were not) I think the most interesting thing here is how they were accepted into App World without issue as were other similar applications with even more similar behavior to BBM than Kik has had to date. Also interesting is that RIM alleges that Kik will continue all of this infringing activity unless it is stopped by the courts even though there was no mention of a prior cease and desist. Should be a good fight.

blutonium 16y ago
Engadget says they were accepted on the premise of developing a music sharing app.[1] Canada has different rules about C&D for this kind of thing, so that bit isn't surprising. [1] http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/01/rim-sues-kik-in-canada-for-patent-infringement/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/01/rim-sues-kik-in-canada-fo...

muffinman2010 16y ago

hmm didn't know the founder worked for RIM, this got a little interesting