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"merely" People deserve credit for taking an idea and running with it. Without Hinton's efforts (in 1987, 2006, or 2012), deep learning would have never seen t

• srean 7y ago
  But is PR what Turing award is for though ?
  • mostafab 7y ago
    PR is what awards are all about
    • backpropaganda 7y ago
      PR is what all science is about. Without communicating ideas, science is not useful. The trio above managed to communicate deep learning ideas to the wider vision and NLP community such as by collaborating with them to come up with benchmarks which would prove usefulness of deep learning, but also to industry and general public. Schmidhuber did very little on these fronts, and even his technical contributions while laudable do not compare with the awardee's.
• obviuosly 7y ago
  > People deserve credit for taking an idea and running with it. Yes, as popularizers. > deep learning would have never seen the explosive growth This is extremely unlikely to be true. I think the explosive growth occured because neurons and intelligence were unpopular in the 2000s because of PC, deferring progress in this area to occur explosively later. The Hinton cartel were not the only people who were aware that AI research "has become silly" (in his own words).
• vbuwivbiu 7y ago
  "would have never..." it's not possible to make such an assertion unless you have access to at least one copy of this universe that doesn't include him. Maybe in all the other universes the exact same thing happened except someone else did it. Maybe in some of those universes, without him and his popularizing of this technique, some other better technique flourished. Who knows? Stating "would never have" is nothing more than telling a story.