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Might want to check the names on this IETF draft... https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-mls-protocol-02.html https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-mls-protocol-
by bascule 8y ago
Might want to check the names on this IETF draft... https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-mls-protocol-02.html https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-mls-protocol-02.html
- ggm 8y agoOne Facebook author and like apple iMessages which used xmpp they lock the anchor certificate to a walled garden. They're writing standards and deploying closed ecologies.
- tptacek 8y agoI'm not getting the sense from you that you're especially familiar with how this particular IETF effort came together.
- ggm 8y agoTrue. Since i'm familiar with Richard Barnes I'll ask him in Prague. Your comments in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16325803 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16325803 seem relevant.
- tptacek 8y agoI'm not optimistic about MLS, the standard. I also don't think it's a secret plot against open protocols.
- ggm 8y agoI don't think I am a secret plot believer. I just observe apple and others deploy group communication software and person to person as walled gardens even when they use xmpp and like protocols.