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Laptops with preinstalled Windows also have a tremendous amount of crapware from various vendors. Trial versions of antivirus software, system "optimizing" apps

Laptops with preinstalled Windows also have a tremendous amount of crapware from various vendors. Trial versions of antivirus software, system "optimizing" apps, sometimes outright spyware too. Thankfully Mac users don't have to put up with this kind of consumer-hostile bullshit.

vetinari 8y ago
Macs have all consumer Apple apps preloaded, and the user cannot delete them without reinstalling macOS from scratch. Imagine a poor user, getting Apple computer with 128GB SSD, where 10GB or more is being taken by GarageBand or iMovie, which he isn't going to touch during the machine lifetime.
- nildos 8y ago
  You can delete the big apps tho. The biggest mandatory app is iTunes and it's only 213Mb. Kind of bugs me that I can't delete 8Mbs of Chess anyway.
  - vetinari 8y ago
    I just tried it in 10.14... and you are right! It wasn't possible in 10.12/10.13.
    - Toutou 8y ago
      Definitely possible at least since 10.10 (Yosemite). Not sure how SIP affects this, as I have it disabled.
      - vetinari 8y ago
        In Yosemite or without SIP it would be possible with plain sudo. In El-Capitan it definitely wasn't that easy (I do have SIP enabled).
asveikau 8y ago
It used to be if you did the Windows installation yourself from a clean image from Microsoft, you didn't get crapware. With Windows 10 I can report this is no longer true. You get Candy Crush and all sorts of nonsense. I had a non-removable XBox app. I had to disable a lot of crap to get Windows 10 to perform well in a VM on one of my machines.