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Just want to note that "2015 Egg Consumption and Human Cardio-Metabolic Health in People with and without Diabetes" states under "Conflicts of Interest": "N.R.

Just want to note that "2015 Egg Consumption and Human Cardio-Metabolic Health in People with and without Diabetes" states under "Conflicts of Interest": "N.R.F., I.D.C. and T.P.M. have received research grants for other clinical trials funded by Australian Egg Corporation Limited". And: "T.P.M. acts as an advisory member to the Egg Nutrition Council." Your last 2017 study is funded by the "Esperance Family Foundation" - need to do more digging, but I wonder if they're linked to animal agriculture/eggs. That's nice. No pro-egg shills are ever involved, huh? Also the processed meat/red meat/nitrate and cancer connection was brought forth by the World Health Organization. Not exactly a pop science source. Further, Dr. Greger is a highly respected physician, author, and academic - his interpretation of the data absolutely matters.

lhl 8y ago
Yes, that review also cites 94 references and (the core of the reference is 3 tables that reviews existing literature anyway) and was published in MDPI's peer-reviewed open access journal Nutrients. Every other publication I listed was also peer-reviewed and can be read in full and is also full of citations. That's sort of the point of having scientific literature. But sure, since he's "highly respected" this Dr Greger sounds like a stand-up guy with no axe to grind, let's see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Greger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Greger as a "professional speaker on public health issues, particularly the benefits of a whole-food, plant-based diet and the harms of eating animal products" and the vegan publisher of the web site you cite as well, you don't say. But, he's an academic? Let's see what he's published (lots of peer reviewed work on nutrition and metabolism I'd expect): https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Michael_Greger https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Michael_Greger Oh hmm, maybe I have the wrong guy, it's just a couple animal welfare papers. Hey, up to you where you want to get your scientific information (same goes w/ the WHO, which I agree isn't a pop science source - it's a ... public health agency/policy advisory body). I'll just read the peer-reviewed literature, thanks.
- ArrayList 8y ago
  Your passion for animal-based products is truly impressive! Have a good one!
  - lhl 8y ago
    The passion is actually for the application of the scientific method in a field that is simply rife with misinformation and ideologues, but thanks for casting aspersions. I can assure you that you haven't made a very strong intellectual argument for your case though.
    - ArrayList 8y ago
      All of the scientific references Dr Greger cited in his video are invalid? Oh, thanks, Dr. lhl on HN.

lhl 8y ago

Yes, that review also cites 94 references and (the core of the reference is 3 tables that reviews existing literature anyway) and was published in MDPI's peer-reviewed open access journal Nutrients. Every other publication I listed was also peer-reviewed and can be read in full and is also full of citations. That's sort of the point of having scientific literature. But sure, since he's "highly respected" this Dr Greger sounds like a stand-up guy with no axe to grind, let's see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Greger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Greger as a "professional speaker on public health issues, particularly the benefits of a whole-food, plant-based diet and the harms of eating animal products" and the vegan publisher of the web site you cite as well, you don't say. But, he's an academic? Let's see what he's published (lots of peer reviewed work on nutrition and metabolism I'd expect): https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Michael_Greger https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Michael_Greger Oh hmm, maybe I have the wrong guy, it's just a couple animal welfare papers. Hey, up to you where you want to get your scientific information (same goes w/ the WHO, which I agree isn't a pop science source - it's a ... public health agency/policy advisory body). I'll just read the peer-reviewed literature, thanks.

ArrayList 8y ago
Your passion for animal-based products is truly impressive! Have a good one!
- lhl 8y ago
  The passion is actually for the application of the scientific method in a field that is simply rife with misinformation and ideologues, but thanks for casting aspersions. I can assure you that you haven't made a very strong intellectual argument for your case though.
  - ArrayList 8y ago
    All of the scientific references Dr Greger cited in his video are invalid? Oh, thanks, Dr. lhl on HN.