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I'd like to put this into the perspective of a foreigner. I believe the sexual assault problem has been blown out of proportions in American culture - there are
by savoy11 16y ago
I'd like to put this into the perspective of a foreigner. I believe the sexual assault problem has been blown out of proportions in American culture - there are things that are just too much, like the sex offenders registration/web site for example. Sex offending is a bad crime, but so is killing someone with a car while driving drunk, how come there is no web site for offenders like that? You can very easily ruin someone's life forever with a blog post like this and while I do not defend him, I believe this is too much and too mean to do at this point, especially without hard evidence of what really happened. This blog post will come #1 for his name forever on all Google searches, she has effectively ruined his personal and professional life forever now.
This sex offender thing results in curious effects in American society that I have not seen anywhere else. For example, in a typical American bar/night-club, the women would typically be the active part in initiating conversations and even talk directly about sex/one-night stands. This has happened to me multiple times. Men are very cautious to even initiate a conversation, let alone suggest something more, because it is very easy to label this sex offense. This is at least my observation with my American friends (Silicon Valley, educated, geek) - this may be different somewhere else.
Just my $0.02. I do not defend the guy, it is just so easy to drop names in blog posts lie that, but you have to be careful when you do that. Also read the comments on her blog. Some of the comments say that this is not the first time she has written blog posts about her being sexually offended (contrary to what she says it's the first time she talks about that). Do not kill the guy based on that. Even if he did what she claims, there are still 1,000 crimes that are much worse than that and we do not even discuss them so much here.
- savoy11 16y agoRead carefully guys before downvoting and know there are always two sides of the same story. Tomorrow this can happen to you too. Ruining someone's personal and professional life forever is a very drastic thing to do and is a very hard punishment even for the worst crimes. This is a comment from her blog post. This greatly differs from her original point that she has never talked about this before, let alone name anyone. <quote> Please don’t think i’m accusing you of fabricating this story but it concerns me greatly that this isn’t the first time you have blogged about being sexual assaulted and named the men involved. Why do you think it is ok for you to do this? I don’t know who Florian Leibert is but without any proof of what happened you have essentially libeled him by making a (technically) baseless allegation of sexual assault.
- studer 16y agoYou're seriously arguing that a throw-away comment from an anonymous internet poster is enough to invalidate her story, and that we should ignore the victim's story because we might find ourselves in the attacker's situation? What the fuck is wrong with you?
- savoy11 16y agoI am just saying there are two sides of the story and we have not heard the other side yet. And we are talking about a professional and personal life getting ruined here (the guy is already screwed up regardless of what comes out of this, with this HN submission and even a Techcrunch article about that). We are getting a pattern of events that emerges we need to analyze that. Public history of multiple sexual harassment claims in blog posts, "flirting with a couple of guys", "having several drinks", "private party in my room". Try to be fair here - we need to hear the other side of the story here for sure.