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Ask HN: Website/idea listing inclusive hotel prices

3 points by baltcode 8y ago

All the regular travel websites I've seen for searching hotel rooms list prices without including taxes, and more importantly, resort fees. How about if someone makes a website which displays, and can search/filter by the room+resort fee? It doesn't seem that hard. Even if the hotels don't like it, a website like this can still be monetized by ads and other affiliate programs. There's a hole in the market, and the implementation isn't even that hard. Why doesn't it exist? If nothing else, I think one could even make a browser plugin that at least changes the source page for listing.

mtmail 8y ago
In Europe travel websites are no allowed to do that. They have to list final prices including any taxes, credit card fees and such. http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-844_en.htm http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-844_en.htm A recent trick was to default to a co-branded credit card where any other payment method costs extra. Of course the co-branded credit card has a high annual fee so it was unlikely a user would choose that.
- baltcode 8y ago
  Does that mean that european travel websites will list the full prices even for American hotels?
- psyklic 8y ago
  I recently booked on Hotwire in Europe and was charged an undisclosed "city tax" at the hotel. In the Hotwire fine print, it states: "Hotwire rates do not include special fees charged by hotels upon check-out. ... Customers will be required to pay these fees directly to the hotels at check-out time." (https://www.hotwire.com/mobile/legal/restrictions https://www.hotwire.com/mobile/legal/restrictions)
  - baltcode 8y ago
    That's really misleading wording if they're using it to charge "city tax". Fees upon checkout are usually based on any charged consumables, damage, room service etc. and it makes sense that those won't be included.
    - psyklic 8y ago
      The portion I excluded clarifies that "special fees" include: energy charges, convention fees, resort fees, and parking fees.
baltcode 8y ago
There are even websites that list the resort fees, such as https://www.lasvegasjaunt.com/las-vegas-resort-fees-2018-guide/ https://www.lasvegasjaunt.com/las-vegas-resort-fees-2018-gui... It's also possible to scrape them from other travel search sites.
iamben 8y ago
Yeah, same with airlines and (hand)luggage. It's all very well seeing that the bargain flight will cost you £30, but when the new cabin baggage rules mean it's going to cost you another £12 on top, it's a little frustrating.

3 points by baltcode 8y ago

mtmail 8y ago

In Europe travel websites are no allowed to do that. They have to list final prices including any taxes, credit card fees and such. http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-844_en.htm http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-844_en.htm A recent trick was to default to a co-branded credit card where any other payment method costs extra. Of course the co-branded credit card has a high annual fee so it was unlikely a user would choose that.

baltcode 8y ago
Does that mean that european travel websites will list the full prices even for American hotels?
psyklic 8y ago
I recently booked on Hotwire in Europe and was charged an undisclosed "city tax" at the hotel. In the Hotwire fine print, it states: "Hotwire rates do not include special fees charged by hotels upon check-out. ... Customers will be required to pay these fees directly to the hotels at check-out time." (https://www.hotwire.com/mobile/legal/restrictions https://www.hotwire.com/mobile/legal/restrictions)
- baltcode 8y ago
  That's really misleading wording if they're using it to charge "city tax". Fees upon checkout are usually based on any charged consumables, damage, room service etc. and it makes sense that those won't be included.
  - psyklic 8y ago
    The portion I excluded clarifies that "special fees" include: energy charges, convention fees, resort fees, and parking fees.

baltcode 8y ago

There are even websites that list the resort fees, such as https://www.lasvegasjaunt.com/las-vegas-resort-fees-2018-guide/ https://www.lasvegasjaunt.com/las-vegas-resort-fees-2018-gui... It's also possible to scrape them from other travel search sites.

iamben 8y ago

Yeah, same with airlines and (hand)luggage. It's all very well seeing that the bargain flight will cost you £30, but when the new cabin baggage rules mean it's going to cost you another £12 on top, it's a little frustrating.