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This is a bit off-topic, but on another occasion, Scott Hanselman infamously used the term "5:01 developers" targetted at many of the same people ;)

by bakhy 8y ago

thepp1983 8y ago
TBH I worked in high stress environments (gambling and finance). Management didn't care that I would work to 7-8pm most evenings (9pm start) and do a few all nighters. A few times I was like 30 minutes late twice in a row I would get called in for a talk about "tardiness". I was younger at the time and I thought they would cut me a bit of slack after delivering the impossible on time!! After a while you realise that it isn't worth the effort and just get a contract job where you earn twice as much and have none of the bullshit.
- bakhy 8y ago
  If you deliver the impossible on time, they'll just ask for the even more impossible next time...
zerkten 8y ago
Do you have a reference for that?
- bakhy 8y ago
  Here: https://www.hanselman.com/blog/501DevelopersFamilyAndExcitementAboutTheCraft.aspx https://www.hanselman.com/blog/501DevelopersFamilyAndExcitem... I'm not sure if that is the original post. There was a bit of backlash against it, someone even published a 5:01 Manifesto, but that site is not maintained any more :D
  - thepp1983 8y ago
    Scott Hanselman is a workaholic. He is also very evasive at answering questions directly if it isn't politically expedient. I have noticed this both in a few email correspondences I've personally had with him and through his comments on his website. I quite like how he explains things and I do think he is a good dude. Hanselman is also one of those developers that can bang code out 24/7. I've met them. They can get a lot of stuff done, however there is usually someone like me that is picking up the pieces left behind. Recently I worked with one and he banged out an MVC project, commented out all the tests I wrote after he changed the API I wrote and then went on holiday to Greece for several weeks and then was moved onto another project. Guess who had to clean up the mess ...

This is a bit off-topic, but on another occasion, Scott Hanselman infamously used the term "5:01 developers" targetted at many of the same people ;)

by bakhy 8y ago

This is a bit off-topic, but on another occasion, Scott Hanselman infamously used the term "5:01 developers" targetted at many of the same people ;)

thepp1983 8y ago

TBH I worked in high stress environments (gambling and finance). Management didn't care that I would work to 7-8pm most evenings (9pm start) and do a few all nighters. A few times I was like 30 minutes late twice in a row I would get called in for a talk about "tardiness". I was younger at the time and I thought they would cut me a bit of slack after delivering the impossible on time!! After a while you realise that it isn't worth the effort and just get a contract job where you earn twice as much and have none of the bullshit.

bakhy 8y ago
If you deliver the impossible on time, they'll just ask for the even more impossible next time...

zerkten 8y ago

Do you have a reference for that?

bakhy 8y ago
Here: https://www.hanselman.com/blog/501DevelopersFamilyAndExcitementAboutTheCraft.aspx https://www.hanselman.com/blog/501DevelopersFamilyAndExcitem... I'm not sure if that is the original post. There was a bit of backlash against it, someone even published a 5:01 Manifesto, but that site is not maintained any more :D
- thepp1983 8y ago
  Scott Hanselman is a workaholic. He is also very evasive at answering questions directly if it isn't politically expedient. I have noticed this both in a few email correspondences I've personally had with him and through his comments on his website. I quite like how he explains things and I do think he is a good dude. Hanselman is also one of those developers that can bang code out 24/7. I've met them. They can get a lot of stuff done, however there is usually someone like me that is picking up the pieces left behind. Recently I worked with one and he banged out an MVC project, commented out all the tests I wrote after he changed the API I wrote and then went on holiday to Greece for several weeks and then was moved onto another project. Guess who had to clean up the mess ...