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I recently ran into that issue - I have a nice fine-tuned yocto image and now a customer wants to "log in via ssh and install a custom raspbian package". I was

I recently ran into that issue - I have a nice fine-tuned yocto image and now a customer wants to "log in via ssh and install a custom raspbian package". I was thinking of the docker solution as well.

v_lisivka 8y ago
"We have small and fine-tuned ghetto, but customers don't want that. What to do?" I have similar problem: we have consumer device on top of imx6. I used iMX6 SoloLite evaluation board kit (1GB of memory) with Fedora for arm as development prototype. For me, installing a package is not a problem at all: "dnf install package". I planed to use Raspbian or Fedberry on actual device, but our management blindly switched to Yocto, without comparing of alternatives. To install package on Yocto, we need to create our own recipe in our own layer,then rebuild Yocto, fix bugs and repeat, and then deliver update. We spent man-year to achieve same result as we already had with Fedora. We seriously lag behind schedule because two developers (and two consultants) are working on developing of our own custom OS instead of working on our application. Moreover, instead of single system for development/testing and production (Fedora or Debian on developer workstation, in Docker for CI, on actual device) we now have mix of two systems. I created configuration script with about fifty options to be able to compile for host and for Yocto at same time (including workaround for number of bugs in Yocto). Enormous development time was sink into ground because of this schizophrenia.
- zubairlk 8y ago
  ouch. That sucks. You could run Fedora in a container on your Yocto base using resinOS. I wrote more about this in another comment. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18093336 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18093336
  - v_lisivka 8y ago
    I already have OS. In my case, I just use chroot script to access full Fedora distro with all development tools on Yocto. If I will be able to replace Yocto, I will replace it with major distro, like Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS, or Fedora, not by yet another toy distro with thousands of packages per maintainer.
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v_lisivka 8y ago

"We have small and fine-tuned ghetto, but customers don't want that. What to do?" I have similar problem: we have consumer device on top of imx6. I used iMX6 SoloLite evaluation board kit (1GB of memory) with Fedora for arm as development prototype. For me, installing a package is not a problem at all: "dnf install package". I planed to use Raspbian or Fedberry on actual device, but our management blindly switched to Yocto, without comparing of alternatives. To install package on Yocto, we need to create our own recipe in our own layer,then rebuild Yocto, fix bugs and repeat, and then deliver update. We spent man-year to achieve same result as we already had with Fedora. We seriously lag behind schedule because two developers (and two consultants) are working on developing of our own custom OS instead of working on our application. Moreover, instead of single system for development/testing and production (Fedora or Debian on developer workstation, in Docker for CI, on actual device) we now have mix of two systems. I created configuration script with about fifty options to be able to compile for host and for Yocto at same time (including workaround for number of bugs in Yocto). Enormous development time was sink into ground because of this schizophrenia.

zubairlk 8y ago
ouch. That sucks. You could run Fedora in a container on your Yocto base using resinOS. I wrote more about this in another comment. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18093336 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18093336
- v_lisivka 8y ago
  I already have OS. In my case, I just use chroot script to access full Fedora distro with all development tools on Yocto. If I will be able to replace Yocto, I will replace it with major distro, like Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS, or Fedora, not by yet another toy distro with thousands of packages per maintainer.

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