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It's about time this became a public discussion. Websites have become so horribly bloated, while most discussions seem to revolve around whether ads are accepta

It's about time this became a public discussion. Websites have become so horribly bloated, while most discussions seem to revolve around whether ads are acceptable or not.

theandrewbailey 8y ago
To be fair, ads are the reason websites are bloated. I don't mind websites loading 50 MB if I'm in awe of the amazing multimedia presentation it's giving me. 50 MB of ads just... isn't.
- lbriner 8y ago
  That's not always true. Check out the new GMail, my new corporate account has no ads but it still weighs in at 25MB (well 28MB now - still asyncing stuff!) for the inbox. In this case, the largest resources are Javascript and CSS (yes 1.2MB CSS files!). The weird thing is that it appears to be making requests with different cache-busting strings and getting resources that are the same size. (32MB now, I haven't done anything on it since starting this post)
  - drb91 8y ago
    > Check out the new GMail, my new corporate account has no ads but it still weighs in at 25MB (well 28MB now - still asyncing stuff!) for the inbox. The new gmail is the slowest web app I have ever used. It's gotten so bad I've started managing my email on my relatively snappy inbox iOS client. It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't load so much crap, like the gchat functionality nobody has used since 2008.
    - 0x8BADF00D 8y ago
      Agreed 100%. Just getting it to load takes forever, and Google Calendar sometimes never renders for me (on latest Chrome for OSX-1).
    - mrob 8y ago
      The old HTML only version still works. I just refreshed mine and got 19.11 KB transfered with cache disabled. (about half that with cache)
      - drb91 8y ago
        Sadly I like the bundling of inbox far too much to switch back at this point.
PlutoIsAPlanet 8y ago
Software in general has become bloated. The increases in performance, memory etc in consumer hardware has been offset by the bloat. Android P uses 10x as much memory as it did from Gingerbread, I don't feel as if there's 10x as many features.
djhworld 8y ago
There's been plenty of public discussion, albeit in the tech community [1]. It's a hard issue to sell to people outside because most people don't care if a website is downloading 1mb or 100mb. [1] http://idlewords.com/talks/website_obesity.htm http://idlewords.com/talks/website_obesity.htm

It's about time this became a public discussion. Websites have become so horribly bloated, while most discussions seem to revolve around whether ads are acceptable or not.

theandrewbailey 8y ago

To be fair, ads are the reason websites are bloated. I don't mind websites loading 50 MB if I'm in awe of the amazing multimedia presentation it's giving me. 50 MB of ads just... isn't.

lbriner 8y ago
That's not always true. Check out the new GMail, my new corporate account has no ads but it still weighs in at 25MB (well 28MB now - still asyncing stuff!) for the inbox. In this case, the largest resources are Javascript and CSS (yes 1.2MB CSS files!). The weird thing is that it appears to be making requests with different cache-busting strings and getting resources that are the same size. (32MB now, I haven't done anything on it since starting this post)
- drb91 8y ago
  > Check out the new GMail, my new corporate account has no ads but it still weighs in at 25MB (well 28MB now - still asyncing stuff!) for the inbox. The new gmail is the slowest web app I have ever used. It's gotten so bad I've started managing my email on my relatively snappy inbox iOS client. It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't load so much crap, like the gchat functionality nobody has used since 2008.
  - 0x8BADF00D 8y ago
    Agreed 100%. Just getting it to load takes forever, and Google Calendar sometimes never renders for me (on latest Chrome for OSX-1).
  - mrob 8y ago
    The old HTML only version still works. I just refreshed mine and got 19.11 KB transfered with cache disabled. (about half that with cache)
    - drb91 8y ago
      Sadly I like the bundling of inbox far too much to switch back at this point.

PlutoIsAPlanet 8y ago

Software in general has become bloated. The increases in performance, memory etc in consumer hardware has been offset by the bloat. Android P uses 10x as much memory as it did from Gingerbread, I don't feel as if there's 10x as many features.

djhworld 8y ago

There's been plenty of public discussion, albeit in the tech community [1]. It's a hard issue to sell to people outside because most people don't care if a website is downloading 1mb or 100mb. [1] http://idlewords.com/talks/website_obesity.htm http://idlewords.com/talks/website_obesity.htm