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>But groups like Senior House, which define themselves by being different, also run the risk of becoming highly conformist, Packer says. The punk rock movement
by proofofconcept 8y ago
>But groups like Senior House, which define themselves by being different, also run the risk of becoming highly conformist, Packer says. The punk rock movement is a particularly vivid example of this phenomenon. “They self-describe as being different, but from the outside they all look the same,” he says.
They don't want to look different from each other; they want to look different from people like him. It's really not that complicated. Spinning that into alarmism against the idea countercultures in general like this guy does is just ridiculous, and there's absolutely no way he's doing so in good faith.
- draw_down 8y agoYeah. People like to make this argument as if it’s somehow super profound, but it’s facile and silly. (This is not the first time I have seen it deployed in regard to punk specifically.) Most people want a community, most people want to be around others they relate to or have things in common with. Plus it by definition doesn’t allow for diversity within the subculture in question, so it ends up disregarding that diversity to whatever extent it exists, which is ironic given the point it’s trying to make. I dunno, it’s just very lazy thinking all around.
- jl2718 8y agoWhy would anybody define themselves as different from someone else? That’s just giving that person control over yourself. Identifying yourself with your own positive affirmation is difficult and scary and maybe the most important thing you’ll ever do.
- Redoubts 8y agolol