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Someone please explain this: Revenues in 2017: ~$21M, loss: $7.5M But, market cap: $27B Why?

travisoneill1 8y ago
A stock goes up when someone buys it and down when someone sells it. Valuations based on financial numbers work only if decisions to buy or sell are also based on that framework. In this case people are buying based on the felling that this is "the next big thing" without looking at the numbers. So, since people keep buying, the stock keeps going up. They will get slaughtered, but it will take time.
- blibble 8y ago
  > A stock goes up when someone buys it and down when someone sells it. this isn't true: to buy a share someone else has to sell it (with some exceptions) in reality the price depends on what the buyer and seller agree (electronically or otherwise) -- just like everything else you buy in general if demand is higher than supply the price rises, just like other markets
  - travisoneill1 8y ago
    Right. Just easier to say buying a stock drives it up than buying a stock at the offer price removes liquidity at the lowest current offer price.
danvoell 8y ago
There are a bunch of weed stocks with these same types of numbers. See weed.to and Aurora Cannibis. It's mostly speculation as to what the market might become. Like a startup forecasting numbers tends to be worth more than one that is actually in the market.
jonknee 8y ago
There are not many shares available (mostly locked up by insiders) and the whole sector is the new bitcoin for retail traders. Call it the Robinhood effect. It's going to be ugly when it pops.
avip 8y ago
"Market cap" = #traded shares X share price. It does not reflect any real value short term, only the greed/fear state, or where we're at on hype cycle etc.
hidenotslide 8y ago
Short squeeze dynamics can cause a stock price to diverge significantly from fundamentals. There are limits to what can be arbitraged, and that may be what is happening in this case. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tilray-is-the-poster-boy-of-short-squeeze-stock-candidates-heres-how-to-find-others-2018-09-19?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tilray-is-the-poster-boy-o...

A stock goes up when someone buys it and down when someone sells it. Valuations based on financial numbers work only if decisions to buy or sell are also based on that framework. In this case people are buying based on the felling that this is "the next big thing" without looking at the numbers. So, since people keep buying, the stock keeps going up. They will get slaughtered, but it will take time.

blibble 8y ago
> A stock goes up when someone buys it and down when someone sells it. this isn't true: to buy a share someone else has to sell it (with some exceptions) in reality the price depends on what the buyer and seller agree (electronically or otherwise) -- just like everything else you buy in general if demand is higher than supply the price rises, just like other markets
- travisoneill1 8y ago
  Right. Just easier to say buying a stock drives it up than buying a stock at the offer price removes liquidity at the lowest current offer price.

danvoell 8y ago

There are a bunch of weed stocks with these same types of numbers. See weed.to and Aurora Cannibis. It's mostly speculation as to what the market might become. Like a startup forecasting numbers tends to be worth more than one that is actually in the market.

jonknee 8y ago

There are not many shares available (mostly locked up by insiders) and the whole sector is the new bitcoin for retail traders. Call it the Robinhood effect. It's going to be ugly when it pops.

avip 8y ago

"Market cap" = #traded shares X share price. It does not reflect any real value short term, only the greed/fear state, or where we're at on hype cycle etc.

hidenotslide 8y ago

Short squeeze dynamics can cause a stock price to diverge significantly from fundamentals. There are limits to what can be arbitraged, and that may be what is happening in this case. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tilray-is-the-poster-boy-of-short-squeeze-stock-candidates-heres-how-to-find-others-2018-09-19?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tilray-is-the-poster-boy-o...