What I am stating is that the definition of being vertically integrated has changed. The OP is arguing it is bad because of the history of capital costs associa

What I am stating is that the definition of being vertically integrated has changed. The OP is arguing it is bad because of the history of capital costs associated with manufacturing. It is not longer cost prohibitive to be vertically integrated because you don't have the upfront capital costs of manufacturing. With that, Apple is excelling at what they are doing. AMD is excelling at it as well. Historically, this type of behavior would be risky if not foolish.