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Try some nooptropics before you go for stress-free jobs. https://www.reddit.com/r/nootropics/wiki/faq#wiki_what_supplements_are_possibly_good_for_mitigating_an

Try some nooptropics before you go for stress-free jobs. https://www.reddit.com/r/nootropics/wiki/faq#wiki_what_supplements_are_possibly_good_for_mitigating_anxiety.3F https://www.reddit.com/r/nootropics/wiki/faq#wiki_what_suppl...

vasco 8y ago
Quintessential HN.
mlevental 8y ago
man if this isn't one of the dumbest hn responses I've ever seen I don't know what is - "instead of trying to have a healthy work-life balance or accommodate personal emotional necessities take these unregulated unproven mind altering substances and keep working yourself to death". like is that you Elon trying to get Tesla employees to crank out more cars? and people actually wonder what the value of teaching kids about toxic labor-exploitative ideology is. sheesh
- avcdsuia 8y ago
  We aren't born in perfection. I'm assuming we all live healthy lives already, but that's not gonna cure everything. I understand my opinion isn't popular, or easy to accept. However, some people (including me) have mild or severe anxiety, are ruled by fear in their entire lives. Having drugs doesn't mean they can eliminate what is encoded in their gene, but it can make dealing with their emotion more approachable, that's enough. ps: I do L-Theanine, which can be found commonly in teas.
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  - toyota786 8y ago
    Surely if you're assuming that the person reading this has anxiety or something similar leading to their desire for a more laid-back job, the proper advice should be to go to their doc and see about getting diagnosed and prescribed. I'd say self medication is probably a last resort and even then one that should be done with caution.
- palimpsests 8y ago
  If I'm hearing you correctly - a way to express the same thing you just said using the principles of nonviolent communication [1] could sound something like: "having a healthy work life balance, healthy emotional management skills, and using safe and well-tested medicines are things that I strongly value. When I read your comment suggesting that people use nootropics, I felt scared / angry / <insert whatever your emotional response was here, related to your needs not being met>, because in it, I heard an invitation to not deal with a stressful job in a healthy way by ignoring the fundamental causes of stress and bypassing them by numbing oneself through the use of untested and unregulated products. Would you be up for explaining more of your thought process as to why you think using nootropics is a good idea? And, how does this address what I'm hearing the in parent commenter's request to address the core causes of stress at work in a healthy, balanced way? Thanks for the conversation." What do you think? 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_Communication https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_Communication
  - mlevental 8y ago
    i think your rephrasing is more offensive than mine (and more confrontational in fact) because it is dripping in condescension. or maybe just your rephrasing at all is condescending. either way your point (that non-confrontational language is better/feasible) is made moot. what do you think?
    - palimpsests 8y ago
      Hi, thanks for letting me know how this landed for you. What about my phrasing felt condescending? If you are up for sharing I'd appreciate that. My point was not that non-confrontational language is better, per se - more that there's different ways to communicate the same things. You referred to the parent comment as "one of the dumbest responses" you've ever seen - which can be taken as a divisive statement (e.g. a type of "violence", in the parlance of NVC). And in that comment, I also heard some an expression of some of your values. I believe that most of us, if not all, desire more connection versus more division, and this is one of the things that NVC can be really helpful in creating. A way to communicate our needs and how to ask for them that fosters connection. And it's definitely a practice! I'm by no means an expert or master.
captain_perl 8y ago
First comment on HN that literally made my jaw drop. Kudos! :)

vasco 8y ago

Quintessential HN.

mlevental 8y ago

man if this isn't one of the dumbest hn responses I've ever seen I don't know what is - "instead of trying to have a healthy work-life balance or accommodate personal emotional necessities take these unregulated unproven mind altering substances and keep working yourself to death". like is that you Elon trying to get Tesla employees to crank out more cars? and people actually wonder what the value of teaching kids about toxic labor-exploitative ideology is. sheesh

avcdsuia 8y ago
We aren't born in perfection. I'm assuming we all live healthy lives already, but that's not gonna cure everything. I understand my opinion isn't popular, or easy to accept. However, some people (including me) have mild or severe anxiety, are ruled by fear in their entire lives. Having drugs doesn't mean they can eliminate what is encoded in their gene, but it can make dealing with their emotion more approachable, that's enough. ps: I do L-Theanine, which can be found commonly in teas.
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- toyota786 8y ago
  Surely if you're assuming that the person reading this has anxiety or something similar leading to their desire for a more laid-back job, the proper advice should be to go to their doc and see about getting diagnosed and prescribed. I'd say self medication is probably a last resort and even then one that should be done with caution.
palimpsests 8y ago
If I'm hearing you correctly - a way to express the same thing you just said using the principles of nonviolent communication [1] could sound something like: "having a healthy work life balance, healthy emotional management skills, and using safe and well-tested medicines are things that I strongly value. When I read your comment suggesting that people use nootropics, I felt scared / angry / <insert whatever your emotional response was here, related to your needs not being met>, because in it, I heard an invitation to not deal with a stressful job in a healthy way by ignoring the fundamental causes of stress and bypassing them by numbing oneself through the use of untested and unregulated products. Would you be up for explaining more of your thought process as to why you think using nootropics is a good idea? And, how does this address what I'm hearing the in parent commenter's request to address the core causes of stress at work in a healthy, balanced way? Thanks for the conversation." What do you think? 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_Communication https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_Communication
- mlevental 8y ago
  i think your rephrasing is more offensive than mine (and more confrontational in fact) because it is dripping in condescension. or maybe just your rephrasing at all is condescending. either way your point (that non-confrontational language is better/feasible) is made moot. what do you think?
  - palimpsests 8y ago
    Hi, thanks for letting me know how this landed for you. What about my phrasing felt condescending? If you are up for sharing I'd appreciate that. My point was not that non-confrontational language is better, per se - more that there's different ways to communicate the same things. You referred to the parent comment as "one of the dumbest responses" you've ever seen - which can be taken as a divisive statement (e.g. a type of "violence", in the parlance of NVC). And in that comment, I also heard some an expression of some of your values. I believe that most of us, if not all, desire more connection versus more division, and this is one of the things that NVC can be really helpful in creating. A way to communicate our needs and how to ask for them that fosters connection. And it's definitely a practice! I'm by no means an expert or master.

captain_perl 8y ago

First comment on HN that literally made my jaw drop. Kudos! :)