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Ex employee of 5 years here. It was open secret that the system was being abused. What they would do is post a notice of intent to hire an H1B by posting the j

Ex employee of 5 years here. It was open secret that the system was being abused. What they would do is post a notice of intent to hire an H1B by posting the job listing in break rooms along with requirements that were clearly senior level and included a salary range for the job drastically below market average. No self respecting local would even bother applying. That's how they got away with claiming they couldn't find good local talent. They have no interest in competing in the local market.

whack 8y ago
Almost every company uses tactics like these. And for good reason. Most factors that actually matters in hiring (GPA, college you got the degree from, caliber of your prior companies and work experience, interview performance, general intellectual & problem solving skills) are all banned from consideration when explaining why you didn't hire a local. And once you water down the job-requirements to exclude all of the above, if even one "qualified" person applies to that job, you're hosed. Dysfunctional laws invite creative workarounds.
- jimmaswell 8y ago
  Maybe they should have to make a reasonable effort to train someone before hiring from overseas.
  - scottmcf 8y ago
    Maybe they should just pay the correct amount for the position, according to the job requirements?
    - unpopular42 8y ago
      Obviously, they already do. The company is willing to pay this amount and there are enough people willing and able to work for this amount, hence the amount is correct.
- 80386 8y ago
  >Most factors that actually matters in hiring (... college you got the degree from, Is this a factor that actually matters? IME, which college you get your degree from is mostly a function of the class and system-manipulating skill (i.e. class) of your parents.
throwmex 8y ago
Ex H1B who immigrated to Canada here. American Express does the same thing too in Phoenix,Arizona. Salary is posted as a range in a low traffic break room. The range is 65K to 110K. That's a broad range. So the actual salary given is plausible. Phoenix location is like a sweat shop because it has a lot of H1B workers, while the non H1b New York location has good facilities. This shows that even the facilities provided are different. Although I don't agree with Trump in most of his policies, I do agree on his H1B policies and OPT changes.
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knuththetruth 8y ago
The fashion industry has high-turnover and does the same thing with various roles. Companies that are located outside of NYC and LA and don't want to pay competitively can't really hold on to talent, so they post classified ads in local newspapers and get an H1B.

whack 8y ago

Almost every company uses tactics like these. And for good reason. Most factors that actually matters in hiring (GPA, college you got the degree from, caliber of your prior companies and work experience, interview performance, general intellectual & problem solving skills) are all banned from consideration when explaining why you didn't hire a local. And once you water down the job-requirements to exclude all of the above, if even one "qualified" person applies to that job, you're hosed. Dysfunctional laws invite creative workarounds.

jimmaswell 8y ago
Maybe they should have to make a reasonable effort to train someone before hiring from overseas.
- scottmcf 8y ago
  Maybe they should just pay the correct amount for the position, according to the job requirements?
  - unpopular42 8y ago
    Obviously, they already do. The company is willing to pay this amount and there are enough people willing and able to work for this amount, hence the amount is correct.
80386 8y ago
>Most factors that actually matters in hiring (... college you got the degree from, Is this a factor that actually matters? IME, which college you get your degree from is mostly a function of the class and system-manipulating skill (i.e. class) of your parents.

throwmex 8y ago

Ex H1B who immigrated to Canada here. American Express does the same thing too in Phoenix,Arizona. Salary is posted as a range in a low traffic break room. The range is 65K to 110K. That's a broad range. So the actual salary given is plausible. Phoenix location is like a sweat shop because it has a lot of H1B workers, while the non H1b New York location has good facilities. This shows that even the facilities provided are different. Although I don't agree with Trump in most of his policies, I do agree on his H1B policies and OPT changes.

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knuththetruth 8y ago

The fashion industry has high-turnover and does the same thing with various roles. Companies that are located outside of NYC and LA and don't want to pay competitively can't really hold on to talent, so they post classified ads in local newspapers and get an H1B.