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To add onto this, how much manual intervention is required in creating the list and contacting them? I feel like there's a reason the competition costs so muc

by jajern 8y ago

To add onto this, how much manual intervention is required in creating the list and contacting them? I feel like there's a reason the competition costs so much more. Seems like, even with "AI" involved, there would be quite a bit of leg work.

BartBoch 8y ago
There is some, to be honest. I am running at $0 profit (as per my report). I have got a nice discount for leads (I am categorized as a research project since I strip all the personal data). This gives me the ability to run this. There is some time required for each order and there will be no way this could be 100% hands-off project. There is no low cost option like ours because of two reasons: 1) There is barely any competition, so companies just use that to hike up prices. 2) They provide the leads that answered the survey, so they cannot be categorized as a research project. This makes those leads cost 5-10 times what I pay.
- jajern 8y ago
  OK, that makes sense. I'm sure you've thought of this, but you are inline with your lead generators terms of service by charging for your product? I'd hate to see you get in trouble since you are getting some social traction here.
  - BartBoch 8y ago
    Yes, that is allowed. I can sell results, not actual data. No risk for me whatsoever as long as I make sure no personal data of leads is given to the end customer.
    - jajern 8y ago
      Great, sounds like you found a perfect product for your use case.
- UncleEntity 8y ago
  > They provide the leads that answered the survey... That, in itself, seems like it's worth the extra cost so you could do things like "Hey, your survey information was very helpful, here's 50% off your first meal at BurgerBarn!"
  - BartBoch 8y ago
    Yes, but as of now, I cannot offer this. The cost of tests and validate this model would go into thousands of dollars. I might try that in the future.

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To add onto this, how much manual intervention is required in creating the list and contacting them? I feel like there's a reason the competition costs so muc

by jajern 8y ago

BartBoch 8y ago
There is some, to be honest. I am running at $0 profit (as per my report). I have got a nice discount for leads (I am categorized as a research project since I strip all the personal data). This gives me the ability to run this. There is some time required for each order and there will be no way this could be 100% hands-off project. There is no low cost option like ours because of two reasons: 1) There is barely any competition, so companies just use that to hike up prices. 2) They provide the leads that answered the survey, so they cannot be categorized as a research project. This makes those leads cost 5-10 times what I pay.
- jajern 8y ago
  OK, that makes sense. I'm sure you've thought of this, but you are inline with your lead generators terms of service by charging for your product? I'd hate to see you get in trouble since you are getting some social traction here.
  - BartBoch 8y ago
    Yes, that is allowed. I can sell results, not actual data. No risk for me whatsoever as long as I make sure no personal data of leads is given to the end customer.
    - jajern 8y ago
      Great, sounds like you found a perfect product for your use case.
- UncleEntity 8y ago
  > They provide the leads that answered the survey... That, in itself, seems like it's worth the extra cost so you could do things like "Hey, your survey information was very helpful, here's 50% off your first meal at BurgerBarn!"
  - BartBoch 8y ago
    Yes, but as of now, I cannot offer this. The cost of tests and validate this model would go into thousands of dollars. I might try that in the future.