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More to the point, the EU didn't say "Google can't monetize Android". It just said that this tying arrangement between Google Search and Android is too anti-com

More to the point, the EU didn't say "Google can't monetize Android". It just said that this tying arrangement between Google Search and Android is too anti-competitive. Android could find other, more transparent and competitive, revenue models.

simion314 8y ago
Google does not even want or need to make money from Android they were/are afraid that iPhone and Windows mobile devices would not default to Google search, having all the mobile devices not defaulting to google gave them nightmares.
- Multicomp 8y ago
  This. Remember that article about how they acted like a toddler to Microsoft when the latter wanted to have a YouTube app?[1] All to keep WP from being viable enough to have a significant market share of users, especially users that didn't know or care enough to swap out bing search for Google. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/14/15970082/google-killed-windows-phone-not-iphone https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/14/15970082/google-killed-wi...
  - FussyZeus 8y ago
    Careful now, can't be criticizing Google too much on HN, they send the wolves for you. I'd love to know how many of the people rallying around Google's defenses now were anti-Microsoft back in the day for doing what is basically the same damn thing they were doing with Internet Explorer, only IMHO worse because Google didn't even develop Android, they just picked it up and filled it to the brim with their software.
    - kungtotte 8y ago
      I don't know which HN you've been reading, but there's a fairly strong anti-Google sentiment around here...
    - bitmapbrother 8y ago
      >Google didn't even develop Android, they just picked it up and filled it to the brim with their software. What Google initially bought was no where near a commercially viable product and any remnants of that legacy code probably don't even even exist in the Android code base of today. >only IMHO worse because Google didn't even develop Android Sort of like how Microsoft bought MS-DOS, the foundation for Windows 1.0, from Seattle Computer Products. Except for the part where Microsoft then tried to screw them over by suing them and ultimately settling out of court.
    - shemnon42 8y ago
      > Careful now, can't be criticizing Google too much on HN, they send the wolves for you. These are kale fed wolves. You'll be fine.
    - fartcannon 8y ago
      Due to their past and current behavior, I'm still anti-Microsoft. And I'm definitely anti-Google. Anti Apple, and Amazon, too. Generally, I'm anti-lock down and anti-spying. I bet a lot of those old anti-MS people feel like I do.
  - bitmapbrother 8y ago
    You neglected to mention that Microsoft employees reverse engineered the YouTube API's and then, for good measure, prevented ads from appearing in the app. They also had no permission to use someone else's IP. >All to keep WP from being viable enough to have a significant market share This is a company that not only had to pay developers to write apps for their platform, but would also offer to write it for them. They were never going to have a significant market share because of their incompetence.
  - s73v3r_ 8y ago
    Google not allowing WP to have a YouTube app that purposely stripped out the ads and ignored various other aspects of the ToS is nowhere near the reason why WP wasn't viable.
    - erk__ 8y ago
      They made an app but got told the only thing they could have was more or less a webview iirc

simion314 8y ago

Google does not even want or need to make money from Android they were/are afraid that iPhone and Windows mobile devices would not default to Google search, having all the mobile devices not defaulting to google gave them nightmares.

Multicomp 8y ago
This. Remember that article about how they acted like a toddler to Microsoft when the latter wanted to have a YouTube app?[1] All to keep WP from being viable enough to have a significant market share of users, especially users that didn't know or care enough to swap out bing search for Google. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/14/15970082/google-killed-windows-phone-not-iphone https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/14/15970082/google-killed-wi...
- FussyZeus 8y ago
  Careful now, can't be criticizing Google too much on HN, they send the wolves for you. I'd love to know how many of the people rallying around Google's defenses now were anti-Microsoft back in the day for doing what is basically the same damn thing they were doing with Internet Explorer, only IMHO worse because Google didn't even develop Android, they just picked it up and filled it to the brim with their software.
  - kungtotte 8y ago
    I don't know which HN you've been reading, but there's a fairly strong anti-Google sentiment around here...
  - bitmapbrother 8y ago
    >Google didn't even develop Android, they just picked it up and filled it to the brim with their software. What Google initially bought was no where near a commercially viable product and any remnants of that legacy code probably don't even even exist in the Android code base of today. >only IMHO worse because Google didn't even develop Android Sort of like how Microsoft bought MS-DOS, the foundation for Windows 1.0, from Seattle Computer Products. Except for the part where Microsoft then tried to screw them over by suing them and ultimately settling out of court.
  - shemnon42 8y ago
    > Careful now, can't be criticizing Google too much on HN, they send the wolves for you. These are kale fed wolves. You'll be fine.
  - fartcannon 8y ago
    Due to their past and current behavior, I'm still anti-Microsoft. And I'm definitely anti-Google. Anti Apple, and Amazon, too. Generally, I'm anti-lock down and anti-spying. I bet a lot of those old anti-MS people feel like I do.
- bitmapbrother 8y ago
  You neglected to mention that Microsoft employees reverse engineered the YouTube API's and then, for good measure, prevented ads from appearing in the app. They also had no permission to use someone else's IP. >All to keep WP from being viable enough to have a significant market share This is a company that not only had to pay developers to write apps for their platform, but would also offer to write it for them. They were never going to have a significant market share because of their incompetence.
- s73v3r_ 8y ago
  Google not allowing WP to have a YouTube app that purposely stripped out the ads and ignored various other aspects of the ToS is nowhere near the reason why WP wasn't viable.
  - erk__ 8y ago
    They made an app but got told the only thing they could have was more or less a webview iirc